I have a Miele super-automatic espresso machine and it makes me happy every day.
I purchased it in 2015, and I’ve had no issues with it. I do clean it regularly. The one I have is probably comparable to the $2,900ish one at Williams-Sonoma.
I just researched less expensive options for my DIL, and seriously considered a Gaggia, but wound up with a different one because I got a great price on it. (I can’t remember which we got - I think it was Delonghi).
I have purchased 2 Jura machines over the years, and took them both back. They didn’t get the drinks hot enough for me.
I am currently considering taking my machine to get it lubed and cleaned (whatever they do to these machines) in hopes that it will last many more years.
If I were to get a new one, I would but a Gaggia or Miele. I realize the super-automatics don’t make “great” drinks according to some people, but I’ve been very happy with mine.
One thing to consider is having the milk frother separate. That would allow you to get just what you want for the frother and the coffeemaker without having to find a combo model fitting all your criteria.
We’ve had a Jura Capresso machine and a De’longhi Rivelia in our vacation home. Both work well, but take up a fair amount of counter space. Also, I had difficulty getting the Jura machine repaired. I’ve switched to the Nespresso (Creatista Pro) in both places. I think it’s easy to use and quick and the coffee is good. I buy the pods online and if I run out, my local grocery store sells pods (Peets) that work with my Nespresso.
My son-in-law is a coffee purist and argues that pour over coffee makers (e.g., Chemex) with a filter are the best way to make coffee. He also uses a special grinder (Encore?). That seems like overkill to me and my palate isn’t sophisticated enough to taste the difference. Plus, I want coffee right away and don’t want to wait. SIL used to work for a coffee company and only buys the coffee this company sells. I keep his coffee making supplies (except for the beans) in my pantry and pull them out when the kids visit.
Y’all will not last one morning in the Bunsen house! Mr. B won’t drink anything but instant Folgers! I once bought instant Starbucks, and it did not go well. I gave up and just drink it, too - for speed and simplicity. Maybe when I retire I’ll buy myself a Miele coffee machine.
I do have a Nespresso machine mostly to use to make coffee for the kids when they come. Coffee snob SIL (makes pour over like @Bromfield2’s SIL) says Nespresso is OK. Folgers - no way!!
I have a mokkamaster which I use daily. I also have a Nespresso machine that I bought many years ago with my Costco rewards check. The espresso machines look intimidating to me. I keep thinking about learning how to make matcha. I just finished a delicious iced matcha latte with oat milk from a local coffee shop, 6.25 for a mid sized glass. I could have one daily if I wasn’t conscious of the price.
Thanks to everyone for your replies. After further research and looking at some machines in person, we purchased the Jura J8 Twin, which has two bean hoppers and grinders, plus a chute for ground coffee. So far, it’s a terrific machine. We’re still experimenting with the various options. There was some initial setup to get the hang of the touch screen and the customization of the drinks, but it’s been a fairly short learning curve. It was still a bit of a splurge, but it seems like Jura is a good brand that stands behind their products. Fingers crossed that it lasts for years, and thanks again for the input.
I made my first at home matcha today. It turned out well. I bought a ceremonial grade matcha and a whisk and bowl from Amazon. Malk brand oat milk from Costco. I made it unsweetened but I’m sure it would be good with a little sweetness. Thanks for the suggestion @abasket
Please come back after a couple of months and let us know how you like the Jura J8 twin. I’m particularly interested in how well it cleans itself, and how hot the drinks are. I’ve had my Miele machine just about 10 years now, and I’m trying to decide if I will get a Miele or Jura, or possibly a Gaggia, when it dies. It sounds like at least Jura has Black Friday sales, so I want to be prepared to execute if one I like goes on a good sale.