Colgate or Johns Hopkins?

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<p>Just what do you think my “claims” are?
I’ve tried not to overstep the limits of what the evidence supports.
The most sweeping claim presented so far in this discussion was this one:
“Hopkins would far and away be the better choice if she chooses something else like bio grad school”.</p>

<p>So please, let me be clear: I’m not claiming that Colgate is more likely to assure a satisfactory graduate school outcome. I think that would depend largely on the OP’s talents and efforts. The one certainty is that Hopkins will cost $50,000 more. I agree that Hopkins is more prestigious than Colgate, especially in the life sciences. That prestige may bring some tangible benefits (as well as personal satisfaction). However, I am skeptical that it will translate to a typical classroom experience that is $50K better than what Colgate delivers. Look at class sizes. Look at the credentials not of all the faculty but of the instructors who actually teach undergrads. </p>

<p>From a list of 13 undergraduate instructor names I selected from the course listings, none of whom are included in the Tenured & Tenure Track Faculty listings, we now know that one (Professor McCarthy) is in fact a part time emeritus professor. Great! Maybe some of the other 12 should have been included in JHU’s faculty listings:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Pearlman/”>http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Pearlman/&lt;/a&gt; (a Senior Lecturer with a PhD from Wisconsin)
<a href=“http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Roberson/Default.html”>http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Roberson/Default.html&lt;/a&gt; (a Lecturer, apparently without a doctorate)
<a href=“http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Shingles”>http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Shingles&lt;/a&gt; (a Lecturer with a PhD from the University of Guelph; JHU postdoc)
<a href=“http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Fisher/”>http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Fisher/&lt;/a&gt; (a Lecturer with a PhD from UNC)
<a href=“http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Tifft/Default.html”>http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Tifft/Default.html&lt;/a&gt; (a Lecturer, apparently without a doctorate)
<a href=“http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Horner/”>http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Horner/&lt;/a&gt; (a Sr. Lecturer with a PhD from JHU)
<a href=“http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Norris/”>http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Faculty/Norris/&lt;/a&gt; (a Sr. Lecturer with a PhD from Wisconsin)
<a href=“http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Directory/Listing.aspx?Students”>http://www.bio.jhu.edu/Directory/Listing.aspx?Students&lt;/a&gt; (C. Wall, a graduate student teaching Model Systems)
<a href=“http://www.jhu.edu/immbi/faculty/bader.html”>http://www.jhu.edu/immbi/faculty/bader.html&lt;/a&gt; (an assistant professor, PhD from Berkeley)
<a href=“The Globe Newsletter | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health”>The Globe Newsletter | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health; (K. Zeller, apparently a graduate student in the School of Pub Health, teaching/assisting Build-a-Genome)</p>

<p>I bet most of these instructors are quite good. Hopkins isn’t going to let a complete hack teach undergraduates. However, I wouldn’t assume they are $50K better than the faculty at Colgate.</p>