<p>Perhaps this website represents Obama’s main supporters (ages between 18-29).</p>
<p>However, your “ideologies” are not appreciated by everyone, including myself.</p>
<p>Back in 2004 when I heard obama speak, i thought he was really going to be our next president. I was amazed by his speech. Even my PoliSci professor thought he was going to run for president and win.</p>
<p>When Hillary decided to run, I thought she was doomed. Obama = great speaker and people would be amazed. However, as I watched the debates, and continued to pay close attention to what he was talking about, all i kept hearing was “change,” “change,” “hope,” “change,” “mlk,” “jfk,” “hope,” “change.” At times, i wondered, “what about the economy?” “are we going to get our health care fixed?” etc. Speaking about change is not going to change our economy, its not going to fix our immigration problems, and it is definitely not going to cure any diseases.</p>
<p>I soon realized that obama was full of great speaking abilities, but spoke NOTHING about the issues. He has barely started to do that, and i already lost “hope.”</p>
<p>This is not about Hillary at all; I used to be an obama fan, but i just think he is not ready. I will vote for him in 2016, when he is ready to get some work done.</p>
<p>I think the majority of those posting on here are adults actually. I contest your claims about Obama. But my best friend is 100% pro-Hillary and I know it’s impossible to switch over a Hilary voter. So, I will respect your choice though I disagree.</p>
<p>I don’t need to read what someone else wrote for him. I want to hear him talk about it.</p>
<p>Is that too much to demand out of someone who claims to be for the people?</p>
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<p>Considering how you like to dissect words, you should have realized i said “SPOKE” not read. Therefore, I don’t * need * to read, because i would rather * hear* him ** talk ** about it.</p>
<p>I don’t have to go to his website to hear him talk about it! Why doesn’t he ever talk about it when it matters…like the debates? I am opposed to going to each of their websites to get biased information on each candidate. I don’t go on hillary’s website, and i will definately not go on obama’s.</p>
<p>I am also opposed to obama’s single payer health care insurance. I believe it is a human right for each and every individual in this country to get health insurance, even if they cant pay for it. Tax the rich and give to the poor!</p>
<p>I already voted (for the cali winner ;)) in california anyways, so trying to switch my opinion wont matter…lol sorry!</p>
<p>"Why doesn’t he ever talk about it when it matters…like the debates? "</p>
<p>He does. Could it be you have selective listening because you hear what you want to hear? Or not hear, as the case may be. Not to mention, in the debates he’s given set questions to answer. The format isn’t designed to run ones mouth willy-nilly about any issue. Although that might be fun :)</p>
<p>“I am opposed to going to each of their websites to get biased information on each candidate”</p>
<p>Of course the websites are biased. They’re about the candidates and are used to promote their candidacies. Why would you expect otherwise? Speeches are biased as well. Why do you differentiate?</p>
<p>I dont differentiate between speeches and websites, they are both biased. I am talking about speeches vs the issues vs. debate! If you go back to the nevada debate, or even the one before New Hampshire, all obama kept talking about was CHANGE. As i said before, change will not do anything, and change is definitely always a good thing! When it comes down to it, all obama does is orate good speeches, but hillary wins on the issues and debates; that is why she won my vote!</p>
<p>One more thing, obama has NEVER spoken about loans. Hillary has…i saw it on youtube. Rather than obama trying to emphasize his speeches on youtube, he should use the opportunity to reach out to young viewers about the issues we care about. Unfortunately, many of my generation have been won over with his star-like quality, but it didnt work for me. I am not electing a rock star; I am electing a president.</p>
<p>You do realize that when you speak in such absolute terms you severely impair your argument and the hoped-for outcome, right? You will not change minds in the Parents Cafe with shouting (caps) or hyperbole. We just shake it off with a shrug of nostalgia (or irritation, depending on the time of day) and think, ah, youth, to be so convinced.</p>
<p>(Not the same as convincing, but you will come to understand that, I think. Choose your words more carefully and people will pay better attention to your ideas.)</p>
<p>And I’m guessing the median age on this board is 48, not 18-29.</p>
<p>donjuan,
it seems that the only way to make you pay attention is to talk about issues in the debates. Rather limited way to discern candidate’s platform.</p>
<p>momof2inca, good thing your vote was outnumbered by 200,000 other voters! Anyways, i am not using my words to try to persuade anyone (that was in the other post); rather, i am talking about what matters to ME. And i am capitalizing as an emphasis because trying to italicize takes more typing and im really lazy.</p>
<p>parabella, well, if you go to a candidates website, its all lies. So I the best way to get a non-biased view is through debates.</p>
<p>Erewhon, no! i want loans to change. I dont think its fair for schools with huge endowments to try to steal kids moneys with other messed up “preferred” lenders.</p>
<p>parabella, well, if you go to a candidates website, its all lies. So I the best way to get a non-biased view is through debates."</p>
<p>Let me get this straight: candidates, plural, indicates you believe Hillary lies as well as Obama on their respective websites. But only Hillary tells the truth in the debates and presents a non biased view of herself?</p>
<p>Sure. All candidates lie, they are politicians for pete’s sake!</p>
<p>When i watch the debates, I watch it with an open mind, sometimes agreeing with obama, sometimes agreeing with john edwards or bill richardson. </p>
<p>The debate is not only about presentation, it is also about talking about the issues, differentiating on the issues, and sharing what you think is right for the country. </p>
<p>In that perspective, i felt that my points of views matched best with hillary.</p>
<p>Erewhon, look, my type of change is reform. Obama’s change is really, from my opinion, just put an african american in office, because, in my opinion, he is really like every other politician. When obama says he wants to “change” the washington politics, he is lying to the public. He lied about his time with rezko, just like other politicians lie about their donations. Yes, i admit hillary lies; who doesnt? I, unlike some of you, do know that my candidate is flawed, but the good outdoes the bad. Obama has no goods (other than inspirational speeches), and lots of bads (relatively no experience, same as other politicians, single payer health care, etc).</p>