My post was in response to this:
Yep, Rutgers is out… Lol. ?. Exchange with Iowa State and I’m good…
I think the SEC and possibly even the Big 12 have the best chance(s) of playing games this season.
SEC officials admit there will be cases on every football team. My question is, if there are cases (which sounds right) how will there not be outbreaks?
I admire MoMo Sanago at Ole Miss, who asks, “Why have students been allowed to come back on campus if we’re trying to have a football season?” He’s right, and my follow-up question is why we force minor league professional football players to pretend to be college students, instead of honestly paying them as the professionals they are. Poor guy, he’s just trying to do his job, and he’s forced to spend time in class with irresponsible frat boys and sorority girls who might infect him.
As the NCAA commercial notes, the vast majority of college athletes are going pro in something other than athletics. Their athletic scholarship is allowing them to get a college education that leaves many kids in debt (and others simply cannot afford at all). Why should frat boys and sorotity girls be allowed to come back to campus at all? Forget the athletes. They may infect non-athletes who are responsible and just trying to get a job (some of whom work as tutors to those same athletes who will be going pro in something other than athletics but will still get a valuable college degree). And some of the athletes will be irresponsible as well. Maybe we should wait to see who is irresponsible and kick them off campus rather than painting with broad strokes.
Interesting question from an unidentified player about any “lasting effects” of Covid-19. Particular concern about the lasting effects on one’s heart.
This is a serious clash of health versus big business.
Is anyone being forced to play a sport right now?
This is a serious clash of health vs big business, but before covid it already was a serious clash of health vs big business. What’s the rate of CTE in 40-year-olds who played college football?
People were being forced to play football before Covid?
I don’t accept workplace safety violations in other workplaces, although people could quit those jobs, so why would I accept it in football?
Jobs are made safer not 100% safe. Even without CTE, people get hurt playing football. Some permanently (and some die). Should we ban football as a result?
How about cars? People are permanently injured and die in car accidents. We make them safer no doubt but clearly not 100% safe. Maybe we should reduce speed limits to 35. People die every year riding bikes, skiing and participating on a host of other activities. Should we ban those as well? All involve big business.
How about tabocco products? Alcohol? Big business here too.
Disclose risks. Work to make things safer. Let people decide if they want to participate.
Interesting conversation.
I agree that D-I college football players should be paid.
Not sure what form it should take–other than unlimited food & all tuition, fees, travel, room & board expenses, and health insurance.
There is a lot of value in the college degree. Or at least should be value if you are going about it right (and again, most D-1 college football players are not going to make money playing football in the pros and many of those who do will not have long careers). There are a lot of kids/families going into debt, sacrificing a lot, etc to get the same degrees.
But if payment beyond that is provided, seems to me it should be done carefully and with an understanding of the impacts. Most colleges do not make profits now with football programs. Many of them help pay for other sports programs (intramurals as well) and its not clear if that support could continue if football players are paid. Some colleges presumably would have the ability to pay more to players (unless there was some type of revenue sharing by conference or all of D-1 I guess).
Not to say there shouldn’t be additional comp. Or maybe the ability to go pro earlier. Just that should be on eyes wide open basis. If it impacts other athletes/students and we are fine with that, so be it. But I think there are a lot of people who support paying college athletes do so with an understanding that everything else in college/athletics would remain the same. Not clear that is the case.
Being paid for use of likelinesses is a start. Will see where that goes.
If they are paid in money, then, if they choose, they can use that money for room, board and tuition, or they can use it for something else. I don’t want to be paid in kind for my work; I want to be paid in money. I don’t see why professional athletes should be any different.
So they should be paid more than the cost of attendance for college? If they don’t pay tuition and room and board (at least if they live in dorms with a meal contract), what happens?
They should be paid money and not required to be students. College football is a professional sport that is hugely lucrative. The athletes should be paid.
Then why have the teams as part of the college at all if players are not students? And would that apply to other divisions of college football as well or just D-1? What about D-1 programs that do not make a profit? They would still have teams of students who are getting scholarships? Or just either you pay your players or no football beyond high school? Judging the size of their stadiums and other football facilities in Texas maybe high school football should be pro too and just pay them to play whether they go to school or not?
True of college basketball too?
Exactly so.
You don’t want college football players to be paid; you don’t want college football to exist. And given your statement about CTE earlier, maybe even football on any level.
Devolving into a discussion of CTE? Then women’s soccer should be banned too.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/15/health/concussion-high-school-sports-study/index.html
Even the 3rd string punter? :lol: