Has she visited? Honestly, I have never heard this as an issue.
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College of Charleston seems like it might be a sure thing @AustenNut can give their opinion.
The college itself has a great Judaic studies program. Charleston is home to one of or the oldest synagogues in the country.
The college itself is a SC public university with a very LAC feel to it. Itâs smack in the middle of downtown Charleston. There is a lot to do there. Itâs a trip west, ut the mountains are there.
C of C was recommended upstream. Why isnât it an option?
Or what about UNC Asheville?
Or University of Delaware.
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She got that advice from a family whose kid is at Oregon but needs to research more.
Some of her choices (to eliminate schools from the list) are not entirely clear to me but she has said she is not wanting crazy hot most of the year (so eliminated Florida, Texas,Arizona) but yes I realize Tulane is still in her listâŠ
She has said she is having a hard time seeing much appreciable difference when she researches a lot of the larger public âsafetyâ schools. I think if there is one that has a strong Honors College (not just an honors program) that might helpâŠ???
University of South Carolina has a very strong honors program. So does Rutgers. So does Ohio University. So do MANY colleges.
Is an honors college also one of her criteria in addition to climbing?
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UDel has a good honors college, my daughter is a graduate.
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No I would not say honors college is a criteria for her - Iâm trying to find ways for her to distinguish some of the schools that seem to be blurring in the background for her. These are great suggestions and Iâll have her research them!!
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Cal Poly does not offer an Undecided/Undeclared major. You need to select a major at entry. Depending upon what she selects and also if she decides to change majors later, there can be some difficulties with a change of major at SLO.
Below is how the UCâs admit. Selecting Undeclared/Undecided will not be an advantage but could be a disadvantage if the program is Selective/Impacted.
UC Freshman admission:
UCB:
Major choice is a factor for admission into the College of Engineering (COE), the College of Chemistry (COC) and the College of Computing, Data Science and Society (CDSS).
Changing majors within the CoE after enrolling is not guaranteed, unless one is CoE undeclared.
Note that L&S admits students as undeclared except for the High Demand majors listed below. UCB also lets you select an alternate major which will only be considered in the waitlist process.
HIGH DEMAND MAJORS:
Art (Practice of) Public Health Operations Research & Management Science Political Economy Social Welfare
Starting Fall 2024, the HAAS Business school will offer a 4 year Undergrad program and Freshman can apply as a direct admit. UC-Berkeley and transfer students may continue to apply for acceptance to the program as sophomores or Juniors.
All students who apply to UC Berkeley and select a major within the College of Natural Resources are evaluated based on their application, not on the particular major they select.
Alternate majors will be considered if space is available usually during the waitlist process.
UCD:
Admission decisions are made based upon the qualifications of the applicant pool and the number of available spaces within each academic area:
-College of Agricultural and Environmental Sciences admits by college
-College of Biological Sciences admits by college
-College of Letters and Science admits by College but within specific academic departments: ie. (Humanities, Arts and Cultural Studies; Mathematics and Physical Sciences; Social Sciences)
-College of Engineering admits by academic department
Note: CS major has moved to the College of Engineering and no longer under the College of Letters and Sciences
Students applying as âundeclaredâ or âundeclared/exploratoryâ are considered within the college/academic department to which they applied.
Applicants are encouraged to list an alternate major, but not in the same area as the primary major. Occasionally, UCD admits to the alternate major.
UCI:
UCI admits by major. In the case that UCI is unable to accommodate all qualified applicants in their first-choice major, those students who indicate a valid alternate major may be offered admission in that major or Undeclared.
UCLA:
For the College of Letters and Science, the applicantâs major is not considered during the review process.
The Henry Samueli School of Engineering and Applied Science admits students by declared major, with more emphasis on science and math programs.
The School of Nursing also places more emphasis on science and math programs and requires the submission of an additional supplemental application.
The School of the Arts and Architecture; Herb Alpert School of Music; and the School of Theater, Film and Television admit students by declared major (within the school), and put more emphasis on special talents through a review of portfolios and/or auditions, which are the most significant admission factors for these schools.
UCLA only guarantees review of an applicantâs first-choice major.
UCLA typically does not admit to the alternate major
UCSD:
The campus does not admit students on the basis of their choice of UC San Diego undergraduate college or major but Intended major is taken into consideration in the admission process . Alternate majors are considered and capped majors are highly competitive. Also note: Capped majors require additional pre-req courses and specific GPA to be able to qualify if changing majors. CS/CSE require a direct admit as a Freshman. If applying to a capped major, it is recommended to select a non-capped major as an alternate.
UCSB:
College of Letters and Sciences: Choice of major is not considered in selection to the College of Letters and Science. The exceptions to this rule are dance and music performance majors. Both majors require applicants to complete an audition in late January or early February.
In the College of Letters and Science, students are admitted to a major or a pre-major. If admitted to a pre-major, the student must meet additional requirements at UCSB prior to declaring the full major.
College of Engineering: Students are selected by major for all engineering and computer science majors. Only applicants with a solid background in advanced high school mathematics will be considered for admission to engineering. This includes high grades in all math courses through grade 11 and enrollment in pre-calculus or higher in grade 12. A student not selected for their first choice major will be reviewed for admission to an alternate major outside of the College of Engineering if one was selected.
College of Creative Studies:
Applicants to the College of Creative Studies submit a supplementary application in addition to the general UC Application, which is reviewed by Creative Studies faculty. Students are selected within Creative Studies majors only. Applicants not selected for Creative Studies will automatically be considered for admission to the College of Letters and Science.
UCSC:
Choice of major does not influence the selection of first-year students, except for those applicants interested in a major offered by the Jack Baskin School of Engineering (BSOE). All students are admitted into a âproposed majorâ and must pre-requisite and GPA requirements before declaring.
Freshmen who are interested in a BSOE program should be sure to indicate a BSOE proposed major. Students who do not indicate a BSOE program or who apply as undeclared might not be able to pursue a BSOE program.
UCR and UCM:
Admission by major but alternate/2nd choice major will be considered if applicant does not meet their first choice admission standards.
UCR For Business: Freshmen students must apply to Pre-Business under the College of Humanities and Social Sciences (CHASS). The College breadth requirements and the prerequisites for a Business major are completed during the freshman and sophomore years. An application is submitted at the end of the sophomore year. Upon acceptance, students become Business majors and are then advised in the Business Department. Students from any academic major may also complete a Business minor.
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I canât really grasp what your daughter is looking for, but there is no lack of things to do in Eugene and at UO. One downside for your daughter is itâs often compared to Boulder, so maybe too similar to what she wants to leave. It does have a very established Honors College - Clark.
I agree with others that Cal Poly and some UCs are not for the undecided.
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The honors at Oregon looks great! Definitely going to have her look at that and speak to more resources about life in Eugene! Thanks!
Rutgers looked like it could be a good options but Iâve read so much about how difficult it is with the spread out campus and terrible bus system
I know at least a dozen kids at Rutgers now. There is a learning curve to the bus system⊠as in, donât meet a friend for coffee somewhere and leave 10 minutes to get to the other side of campus for your Poli Sci lecture. But none of them seem at all perturbed about the size of the campus. It is neither the most compact nor the most spread out campus in the US⊠and tens of thousands of kids manage to learn how to get around in the most hassle free way once they learn where their own âcenter of gravityâ is going to be!
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I visited Eugene last year. It has a nice downtown with shops and restaurants. I was really impressed with the schoolâs craft studio.
My impression of a school with 5 âcampusesâ is more of a commuter vibe. Is that true at Rutgers? What does it mean that there are these separate spaces and not a continuous campus?
This is so helpful. Her favorite of the UCs is probably Santa Barbara which looks like it could be ok for undecided if she is in Letters and Sciences (or perhaps creative studies).
Not really a commuter vibe, students have classes on different campuses, some are walkable. Pretty much all students use the buses, residents and commuters get assigned a parking lot on a specific campus, canât park on other campuses, so unless all classes are on a particular campus both semesters they will be busing. Dorms and dining on each campus. One campus has a NJ transit train station, another has a working farm. The campuses are close to each other.
Rutgers Housing says that it manages living arrangements for 16,000 students (traditional dorms, university apartments, etc.) so itâs hard to view this as a commuter school.
There are students who commute- NJ is a tiny state compared to Colorado and has good public transportation from many of the towns nearby. But there are a LOT of students who dorm!
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We have a lot in common â we just sent 1 kid out to Colorado for the mountains there! And another to WashU. Your climber sounds wonderful. She might want to consider the Honors College at UMass Amherst, depending on what counts as âhorribleâ for winter. There is a good climbing gym in the same town: Central Rock Gym. I couldnât tell you about Greek life or sports, but we do know lots of serious climbers. In addition thereâs plenty of outdoor climbs to drive to.
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Honors at UMASS is a hard admit, my kids had the same gpa but higher scores and did not get in.
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