A video published by Boston University.
Boston University Students on the Pain Caused by the Israel-Hamas War - YouTube
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This is interesting; WATCH: MIT, Penn, Harvard Presidents Say Calls for Jewish Genocide Do Not Violate Code of Conduct
I just watched this and am speechless.
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Did we time travel to the 1930s?
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Horrible.
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One of the plaintiffs in the UPenn lawsuit was among the Jewish college students who spoke at a press conference held this morning ahead of the the congressional testimony by the college presidents.
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She was horrible and ridiculous, not unexpected, given that she was clearly coached by attorneys. But having her and the others questioned on TV in a public forum was worthwhile in my opinion. It showed, unvarnished, exactly who are leading (and the deficit in leadership) these schools.
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Kudos to presidents Kornbluth, Magill, and Gay for maintaining their composure and sense of reason, and refusing to participate in a clown show.
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This was not a clown show. I viewed this as antisemitism.
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What specifically did they say that made them antisemitic?
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They did not answer the question and stated it had to be viewed in context. I cannot imagine responding that way about any group of people. I have to be careful because my posts have been deleted in the past.
As a Jewish person I found the responses (lack of a direct answer) to be very disturbing.
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They did try to answer the question and were instead repeatedly rudely interrupted.
It is simultaneously possible for your to find the responses disturbing and for their answers not to be antisemitic. I didnât hear them espouse or condone any of the extreme views listed by the Congresswoman. They were answering a legal question about their school policies on speech. They didnât even state an opinion or their views.
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YesâŠAnd I am not sure: who actually sets this policy? Did they? Or the Trustees? Or someone else (like set forth in a charter)? I actually do not know the answer to this question. Are the policies they described policies they set? Or were they just answering questions about the policies that are currently in place?
Is calling for the âgenocide of Jewsâ considered âharassment?â These 3 individuals were unable to answer the question with a simple yes or no.
Take out âJewsâ and substitute any other group, and the answer would be yes (as it absolutely should). For some reason when it involves Jewish people it is somehow different.
I cannot even believe that in this day and age this is a topic of conversation.
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Where did they say their answer would have been different if it was a different group?
FWIW, I personally think that specifically calling for the genocide of any group should be considered harassment, though I have no idea if that meets the legal definition is all contexts. And it should not extend to statements where it is not expressly the intent but some parties interpret it that way, such as âfrom the river to the seaâ which is not universally used or understood as a call for genocide.
I would imagine the universityâs legal team told them how they must answer according to legal definitions and official policy. Perhaps that policy must be changed. Perhaps the legal definition of harassment should be expanded. Perhaps doing these things would have allowed them to answer in the affirmative. I am not a lawyer and do not know. Perhaps a lawyer can weigh in on their responses.
They didnât.
But we donât seem to be having these discussions about any other group of people (thank goodness). For some reason itâs ok when it is about Jewish people.
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Itâs unfortunate they didnât follow up with that question. I guess they could say their answer would be the same but for some reason, that rings hollow. Whatâs more worrisome is the follow up is that âconductâ with the call would be considered harassment. Is there an example of what exactly might be âconductâ in this context that rises to level of harassment and bullying (as opposed to say, stalking or assault or attempted murder)? In other words, do students actually have to commit a crime to violate harassment policy?
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