Honestly, first thing I thought when Oregon got swooped was - why do they want them ? All I could think was to give Washington a natural rival and an even #.
Oregon State over the years certainly had wonderful sports - in both football and basketball.
The entire West Coast for many has been an after thought due to time zones.
Yes, they were just in Tuscaloosa for a 6PM EST game. And ESPNâs Game Day broadcast starts at 9AM EST. But all the fans get there much earlier, like 6 AM EST.
Northwestern has had more bad football years than good ones because, similar to Stanford, it is a challenge to recruit athletes when the schoolâs academic standards are one of the highest and hardest for college admissions in the country.
Nebraska was invited to the Big Ten because the school at that time was a member of the prestigious American Association of Universities (AAU). Currently, except for Nebraska, all the universities in the Big Ten are members of the AAU. Stanford and Cal, both, which would have preferred the Big Ten over the ACC, are members. Membership in the AAU evidently is one factor considered for Big Ten membership. Prior to the Pac 12 breakup, except for OSU and WSU, all the Pac 12 schools (including USC/UCLA) were AAU members.
Footnote from Wikipedia regarding Nebraskaâs AAU membership:
Removed from the AAU. Chancellor Harvey Perlman said that the lack of an on-campus medical school (the Medical Center is a separate campus of the University of Nebraska system) and the AAUâs disregarding of USDA-funded agricultural research in its metrics hurt the universityâs performance in the associationâs internal ranking system. In 2010 Perlman stated that had Nebraska not been part of the AAU, the Big Ten Conference would likely not have invited it to become the athletic conferenceâs 12th member.[quote=âtwoinanddone, post:348, topic:3643524, full:trueâ]
I donât know why the Big 10 picked Nebraska 10 years ago. Sure, they have a loyal (and traveling) alum group, but not a big media market. And I donât think it is worked out well for the Big 10. Nebraska doesnât have a big rivalry with any of the other teams and hasnât brought any sparks to the conference.
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I did live here and experienced it. It was always OK and Neb, one which would go to the Orange Bowl. Then CU became a spoiler, then CU became awful for a few years (early 80s) then Bill McCartney came and âtheyâ (the tv networks, the Big 8, McCartney) made the CU/Neb game the day after Thanksgiving and CU was good and started beating Neb. Things were nasty before but became really nasty after. Tom Osbourne voted against CU to be national champs in 1990. Nebraska fans made nasty signs about Sal Aunese (CU quarterback who die of cancer but was the father of McCartneyâs grandchild ) that were racial and cruel and Nebraskaâs response was âwell, we canât control what fans do.â It is not a friendly rivalry.
And Prime was brought into CU and told that. There is no RED in the CU athletic facilities - no clothing, no pens, no equipment. Prime was told to push the âwe hate Nebraskaâ history.
I actually feel the rivalry has died. This game was very different than others have been. Colorado fans have better things to do than hate Nebraska. We have professional sports, we have CU v CSU, we will now have new rivals in the Big 12. We have the best mascot and not a farmer with a corn cob for a hat. Nebraska has âŠnothing.
I agree - they have nothing. But they had everything - and they canât recover it in the big 10. Who would have thought Scott Frost would have been such a disaster?
Saul Annessee - thereâs a name from the past - Vista High in San Diego County. And Rashaan Salaam later - also from San Diego. And unfortunately Rae Carruth, who is somehow out of prison.
One thing they had was class. Matt Rhule was classy at the finish of the game. Shadeur Sanders - not so much - but heâs badass, so he can do whatever he wants
Wonât Colorado fans have to be there well before 7am MT? I remember when S had Game Day at UCLA and they were up at 4.30am PT to get a decent spot for the 6am PT start.
Last week the Big Noon area opened at 5 (the on campus parking lots didnât even open until 6). Theyâd been giving out food and t-shirts but I got there at 7 and those were gone, or at least over for a while. They went on tv at 8 and wanted people to stay until 9:15 so there were some extra giveaways till then, but the game started at 10 and if you really wanted to be in your seat to see Ralphie run (very important).
So this week it should be the same, a 5 am open, an 8-10 show but on campus (game day) parking wonât open till 2 pm (6 hours before game time) Since weâre playing Colorado State, which is an hour away, I doubt many CSU students will come down 15 hours before game time.
ESPN is also doing Game Day in the am, assume the same schedule. Not sure there are enough drunk college kids available to get up at 5 am to fill both areas. CU kids can at least take a nap before game time at 8 pm.
I was actually surprised at how small the mosh pit area was. There really werenât that many people there, at least continuously from 5-10 am. I had to go over to the stadium at 8 because of a ticket issue and there were tons of students waiting to get into the stadium (it is general seating for the students), and the athletes walk into the facilities at 8 so many were waiting for that parade. Then the marching band comes throughâŠlots of things going on. Iâm a dedicated fan but as a college student not sure Iâd get up at 5 for an 8 pm game.
Disagree. Nebraska / Oklahoma was a very big game with a lot of history. For many years, the winner of that game was able to make it to Miami for the Orange Bowl and play another usually highly ranked team for a national title.
Colorado was relevant at that level for 5 minutes with Bill McCartney. Outside of that, the Big 8 was OU and NU, and a bunch of other teams playing for 3rd. In fact, that was the criticism of the Big 8: that it was a top-heavy, two team conference.
I would say the class was there, particularly their fans who are known for it.
But mid-90s Nebraska were like prison teams out on furlough. LOTS of problems with players during that run. For some reason, they didnât receive the negative pub that other teams tended to draw, often for far lesser offenses.
Matt Rhule took a hit upfront for saying he disagreed with how Deion built his team but he was the epitome of class after.
Shadeur hasnât been but heâs 21 and rich. And protecting his dad.
Those old OU / Nebraska games captivated all of college football year after year.
Itâs gone. Really Nebraska is gone.
Maybe in a two state radius they cared about CU/UNL but thatâs it. CU has had flares of greatness and more than flares of Karl Dorell - perhaps the Ryan Seacrest of College Football - BOOOOOOORING
Oh man, Iâd so disagree with their fans being nice. The are rude in the stands. When I traveled to Nebraska years ago and stayed with students, they stole all our CU gear and laughed about it. We should have called the police but didnât. They spread the visitors all over their stadium in groups of 4 to 8, and then (used to) throw oranges at the visitors. I donât think they throw roses now that they are in the Big 10.
They couldnât get nearly as many tickets for the CU game as they usually do because the student sections have been expanded and so many more season tickets were sold. Some at the tailgates were nice as we were leaving, most not so much.
Itâs looking like Oregon State and Wazzu want to rebuild the PAC 12, but is that even possible? Would they lose their P5 status? Would they get a halfway decent TV deal?
Theyâd probably take some AAC schools like Tulane, Memphis, and possibly UTSA(my alma-matter, and yes Iâm bias ). But, yes it would be a hodgpodge AAC/MWC conference, and nothing resembling what the PAC12 was. But still, there are some strong programs in there and some real potential for growth. Iâm thinking the reason the AAC turned down the PAC12 leftovers is because theyâre betting they have the best TV deal of the three conferences when the dust settles.