Colleges for the Jewish "B" student (Part 1)

<p>I never thought of C-M as a “B” school.</p>

<p>Surprisingly, most of the schools at CMU list about a 3.6 as their average GPA (in the arts they state openly that they do not emphasize GPA). They do tend to have high test scores, so it’s not so much for a lopsided kid whose GPA is their best feature. And they are not known for generous FA.</p>

<p>My D loves CMU, loved the tour, loved the campus, loves the theater program. They do allow you do apply to several of their schools at once (usually with multiple apps), and there are some integrated majors where you can either transfer or cross schools, so there is flexibility.</p>

<p>Vitrac - If your child was looking at CMU for either art or drama those admission criteria are different from the rest of CMU. For drama/musical theater the audition is 80-90% of the admission criteria and for art the portfolio is 50%. So a B student could get into either of those programs. However, for the rest of the students out there, I did say in my post that CMU would be a real reach for a B student.</p>

<p>Seiclan - I will PM you the stats when I get home. Is their a particular school you are interested in?</p>

<p>Here are the stats for C-M [College</a> Navigator - Carnegie Mellon University](<a href=“College Navigator - Carnegie Mellon University”>College Navigator - Carnegie Mellon University) I’ve never heard of it as being a college for a B student. When we visited Pitt someone in the information session asked one of the Prof’s to compare Pitt with CM and the Prof said something like it was comparing apples and oranges because they were in a different league. It’s extremely well respected in Pennsylvania for engineering and Computer Science. Not so much for financial aid.</p>

<p>On-line article from Baltimore Jewish Times re colleges that was mentioned a few days ago - link is now available. </p>

<p>[Baltimore</a> Jewish Times - National News | Life On Campus](<a href=“http://www.jewishtimes.com/index.php/jewishtimes/news/jt/national_news/life_on_campus/20778]Baltimore”>http://www.jewishtimes.com/index.php/jewishtimes/news/jt/national_news/life_on_campus/20778)</p>

<p>No way is Carnegie-Mellon for the B student! Unless it’s for the BFA programs as stated.</p>

<p>RM: the end of the article is cut-off if one doesn’t have a subscription (during the discussion of McDaniel)…any way to copy and paste/post so we can read the rest of it or is it not necessary?</p>

<p>rodney - I don’t subscribe - that’s all I could link. I would be curious to see the rest of the article as well - maybe someone who subscribes can link the whole thing.</p>

<p>My D has friends from many aspects of her life who are freshmen at Binghamton right now - from her URJ camp, from NFTY, from her Hebrew High School and (non-Jewish) from her public high school. They all LOVE IT! All are from NY (except one from Boston), various majors. One is in SOM and entered with 24 credits from APs (he was way above a B student, but if you are in-state, you have to be way above a B student). I’m hearing a lot of good things about it. (However, I would not enjoy the drive from DC – and I drove all over the place visiting colleges, about to start round 2.)</p>

<p>There is lots to like about Binghamton, but consider whether getting in as OOS B student, when the vast majority of the student body are A students from NY state, may lead your child to struggle.</p>

<p>I subscribe to the Baltimore JT, but I couldn’t access the end of the online article either. I scanned in the last few pages of the article. I’d be happy to email them to anyone who PM’s me.</p>

<p>momjr - could you summarize for us maybe? It left off at McDaniel - maybe you could highlight which other colleges they mentioned and the main points? For example, I didn’t know there was much of anything Jewish happening at McDaniel - it’s a good safety school for a B student - would be helpful to some to have some info on here. Thanks.</p>

<p>My daughter is interested in studying animal behavior, wildlife cons., zoology but not as a pre-vet.</p>

<p>Momjr–good points thank u.When looking at stats I’ll look at whether freshman/sophomores are required to live on campus.</p>

<p>We visited McDaniel last year and D wasn’t that impressed. She disliked the area around the school (although we happened to drive past on an unrelated trip a couple of months later and found the strip with the malls and big box stores), but what really irritated her was that the campus was not as nice as it appeared in the brochure photos - serious use of wide angle lenses to make things appear larger than they are in real life.</p>

<p>This theme was echoed in her interview - her first interview, so take with a grain of salt - but she had selected the school for it’s advertised “SAT optional” opportunity and she was disturbed that the admissions interviewer kept asking her for her SAT scores even though she kept telling him that she would be applying as SAT-optional. He told her she wasn’t being cooperative and warned her that this would harm her application.</p>

<p>As it turned out, she decided that her academic interests were sufficiently different that she never ended up applying there anyway. But it left a bad taste. YMMV.</p>

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<p>That’s a particularly bizarre episode at a CTCL school. </p>

<p>I found it shocking how, even among small schools promoting a friendly atmosphere, there could be vast differences in how friendly and helpful they actually were. What’s the point of spending lots of money on branding if your admissions people brand the schools as nasty or unresponsive?</p>

<p>I received this from CofC this morning and thought some of you might be interested:</p>

<p>College of Charleston
Prospective Student Weekend</p>

<p>THE JEWISH STUDENT UNION/HILLEL AT THE
COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON</p>

<p>Friday, October 15
•Join the JSU/Hillel for Shabbat services and dinner at 5:45pm at the
Jewish Studies Center (Family welcome)
•Ask questions of a panel of current students
•Spend the night in a dorm with a JSU/Hillel student</p>

<p>Saturday, October 16
•Attend the CofC Open House*</p>

<p>Sunday, October 17
•Sleep late, then come to the Jewish Studies Center at 10:30am for a bagel
brunch (Family Welcome) </p>

<p>Y
To RSVP please visit [JSU/Hillel</a> Home](<a href=“Page not found - College of Charleston”>Page not found - College of Charleston) and click on the
Prospective Student Weekend link on the left hand side.</p>

<p>If you have any questions, please contact Mimi at 843-953-3917 or
<a href=“mailto:lewismn@cofc.edu”>lewismn@cofc.edu</a>. </p>

<p>Please RSVP by October 1st if you would like to stay with a student.
Space is limited for the overnight stay, so please register early.</p>

<p>*Please note you need to sign up separately for the free Open House at [Admissions</a> - College of Charleston](<a href=“Page not found - College of Charleston”>College of Charleston Admissions).</p>

<p>What does anyone here know about the MEOR organization? They’re sponsoring the class my D is taking this fall. Sounds like they do a lot of interesting stuff, but I’d never heard of them.</p>

<p>Here’s a summary of the end of the Baltimore Jewish Times Article:
McDaniel is reaching out to larger Hillels by providing transportation to Goucher’s high holiday services and some other programs this year. (Please note that Goucher is about 45 minutes away).</p>

<p>The article then discusses “mega-sized Jewish Life at College Park”. UMCP has a huge Hillel with a budge of $1.4 million, a 12 member staff, and 42 student groups. About 60%of the 6,000 Jewish students come from out of state, and many of the OOS students are Orthodox. The campus has kosher dining and an eruv, but they reach out to all Jewish students. Programs range from a Holocaust vigil to pool parties. </p>

<p>The article ends by discussing the “21st-Century Jewish College Student”. President of Hille international mentions that up to 50% of Jewish college students come from a mixed home, and Hillel hopes to educate them. He also mentions that adolescents have a “herd mentality” which is an expression of community. “Given that they already have a community, our job at Hillel is to connect to that community and to infuse it Jewishly.”</p>

<p>^^thanks, momjr…</p>