<p>SDonCC - agree completely re Naviance - it is very school specific - but for someone who has no Naviance to look at - maybe it helps a little?</p>
<p>Rockvillemom - Thanks for posting the link to the Hillel JUC of Pittsburgh. I looked at the website and the hillel seems to be very active. I actually like the fact that it pulls from different schools. Right now, CMU ranks as one of D’s top choices.</p>
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<p>You are not hallucinating. The same thing happened to me yesterday. The 2010 data was there and then gone a few hours later.</p>
<p>I did get an answer regarding the weird Naviance event yesterday - the changeover date used to be July 1 - it is now July 15th - technical reasons having to do with high schools that send out final transcripts through naviance needed more time. But, Naviance made a mistake yesterday and did the switch over on July 1 - then they realized their error and reversed it. So, yes, 2010 data was available for a short time yesterday - and then it vanished. It will reappear July 15th. I know I’m a bit obsessed on this topic - but it was a little worrisome that I was actually hallucinating and quoting imaginary Naviance data. So, it was good to get an explanation and know that I am not crazy.</p>
<p>mdcissp:</p>
<p>We have a friend whose son is also interested in actuarial sciences and will be enrolling in WPI (Worcester Polytech Institute) this coming Fall. Don’t know if that school is an option for you or not, or if you have already considered it.</p>
<p>that’s interesting about the Naviance. I thought our guidance department inputted all the data themselves!</p>
<p>I believe guidance dept staff inputs the results for their high school - but the Naviance staff roll the system over every July - so that parents and students can see the data from the class that just graduated.</p>
<p>Although my general preference is that S2 be within driving range, we still talk about Florida a bit. Under consideration - Univ. of Miami (probably a little reachy), Univ. of Tampa (safety) and Eckerd College (match/safety). I think Eckerd mught be a bit small - of the Florida schools - Tampa seems most interesting. Tampa reminds me of High Point though in the ferocity of views on it - I read through everything I could find on Tampa in older CC posts and people either speak well of it or hate it - did not seem to be much middle ground. Anyone here have kids at any of these Florida schools care to weigh in?</p>
<p>I highly recommend you look at UCF in Orlando. My D2 is a rising junior there and loves it. It is a fabulous school for the Jewish (15%) B\B+ student and has rolling admissions.</p>
<p>rockvillemom, I can only tell you that my son applied to Tampa using one of their priority apps (don’t know if that is what they call it). He got his decision very early in the process and they also offered him his best financial aid package when one looked at the bottom line (although 3 other schools came pretty close to that offer). My son’s friend did not do as well with respect to aid (also has lower stats). Neither chose Tampa, although had we encouraged UT, I think my son would have attended. He liked what he heard, and one peer in his hs told my son that this was his “dream school”. That is when my son really started to consider it. We did not think that Tampa was the best match for our son to visit and investigate further.</p>
<p>seiclan - I think UCF is a lot bigger than we have in mind - I am more comfortable with Tampa’s 5000 students and Miami’s 10,000 - trying to stay in that type of range, but thanks for the suggestion.</p>
<p>northeastmom - I really like the idea of having a few acceptances early in the process - so I will keep Tampa in mind. I have no idea when we would get down there to visit - but from what I can see on-line - it looks very attractive. Has the business majors S2 wants - price is ok - it actually looks pretty nice - which is why I am puzzled by how negative some of the reviews are. I understand it is not the most competitive school - but then S2 is not the most competitive student - so it seems like a potential fit.</p>
<p>Univ. Florida has a relatively new Hillel. My problem with U. Florida is the state is suffering economically. First, it was the real estate bubble bursting in S. Florida. Now it is the effects of the oil spill on the other side of the state. In addition to the occasional hurricanes, etc. Not sure how this will all impact the Florida state budget to fund its flagship.</p>
<p>so let me get this straight; Naviance is not updated yet? Why does it say 2010 then on the dates included? (as well as the college stats page which shows how many students applied/accepted to the school?)…weird…I guess I’ll look at it again on the 15th (Bastille Day haha)…</p>
<p>Since RM has been so helpful with quoting the Naviance from her son’s HS it may be beneficial to know the grading system/weighting…as SdonCC stated, A “B” from one school may not be a true “B” from another…(and as I have discussed privately with some, if there are no + and/or -'s in the grading scale, it skews the GPA’s…)</p>
<p>I believe that the Naviance company “flips over” the data - sort of takes the recently graduated class - and “graduates” them within the naviance system - this is what makes the 2010 data available - they are going to do this on July 15th. Individual high schools can flip theirs over earlier if they want to do so manually. So, you might be able to see Class of 2010 data at your particular high school - at our hs - other than that brief glance I got on July 1 - it won’t be available again until the 15th.</p>
<p>Our data is on weighted GPAs. We do the very typical C = 2; B = 3 and A = 4 grading scale with no B+ or B- - just whole letter grades and then add 1 point for every grade in a honors or AP class. So, a B in an honors class is worth 4 points. </p>
<p>I’m always happy to share Naviance info for anyone who does not have it at their school and wants something to use as a starting point. It is a large hs - 650 kids per class - so there is a lot of data to look at.</p>
<p>Rockvillemom,
You are kind to offer to share naviance data. Our school just started subscribing this past year and it has been enlightening to view. My D2, rising senior, is very interested in Elon but so few kids have applied that nothing shows up (guidance counselor said a minimum of 5 people have to apply to maintain confidentiality)–D goes to a very small school. If you’re open to sharing your school’s Naviance data for Elon, I’d love to see it. Hmm, just reflecting that the latest data isn’t available til July 15. If you don’t mind, I will ask then.</p>
<p>I also just wanted to thank everyone for all the great information I’ve gathered on this thread!</p>
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<p>The University of Florida’s Hillel is not new by any means. The Hillel Building is only a few years old and replaced the old one that was around for at least 50 years. UF Hillel is HUGE and very active. There are always activities and things going on. </p>
<p>[Welcome</a> to the University of Florida Hillel](<a href=“http://www.ufhillel.org%5DWelcome”>http://www.ufhillel.org)</p>
<p>That said, UF is not a college for the B student. Admissions is very unpredictable and no one is assured of spot, instate or OOS. At my kids public HS, only the top 5% of students got in on academics (and that is not a guarantee). UF looks at applications holistically and tries to build a freshman class to be representative of the states population (so it is easier to get in if an applicant is from an underrepresented county and is a URM or athlete). </p>
<p>FSU is more GPA/test scores based and takes more of the B students (in addition to top students) from our HS. FSU only has about a 9% Jewish population though, but it is an active one. </p>
<p>Schools in Florida face the same budget cuts and economics as ANY state in this economy. Florida is not hurting any more than say, New Jersey, where I am from and my entire family lives. That said, Florida has never put Education at the top of its budget considerations. Public schools are all overcrowded and poorly funded.</p>
<p>I visited UF with my d, who was unexpectedly accepted there. Really liked the school alot. We sat by a pool one day and coincidentally ran into 50 Jewish girls who couldn’t have been nicer. In the end, the school felt too big and my d hared the town of Gainesville, but for some kids (and their acceptance formula remains a mystery) it is a perfect choice and certainly worth considering.</p>
<p>The state flagship landscape varies dramatically by state. Many state flagships are much easier out of state than in, such as Binghamton. Others are much harder, such as Delaware, UVA and UNC. </p>
<p>And then there are those flagships which, despite good academics and big time sports programs, are somehow off the radar of most kids, I suspect because they lack sunshine–Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, etc</p>
<p>^^lol; I don’t think both my kids put together know 50 Jewish girls who could/would hang out together…actually, I don’t think they even have 50 friends (Jewish or non-Jewish) that would all know each other…</p>
<p>on a completely different subject…my older daughter returned from Birthright in June; has now decided that she wants to study abroad at Tel Aviv U instead of London next year; Daddy is not overjoyed (I asked him what he expected when she decided to travel to Israel? That she would hate it???)…we’ll see what happens…</p>
<p>mind you, this is the kid that had ZERO Jewish friends in high school, a non-Jewish boyfriend until last year and is friends with mostly non-Jewish kids at her college (one of those with a 30% Jewish population; go figure)…</p>
<p>You just never know…</p>
<p>Collage1 - on Elon - in 2009 (I’ll update with 2010 when available) our large public hs had 14 students apply, 7 were accepted (including my older son) and 1 matriculated. The average weighted GPA was a 3.9, the average accepted SAT was 1250 and the average accepted ACT was 28. The average test scores are skewing high because there were several kids with 1500s and 34s who were accepted. Looking at the graph in terms of who gets in - pretty much every applicant with at least a 1250 SAT (out of 1600) was accepted - even with a weighted GPA as low as 3.4 or 3.5. Conversely, a weighted GPA over 4.0 with lower test scores could easily be a deferral or waitlist.</p>
<p>One note of interest - every student who applied ED was accepted.</p>