Colleges for the Jewish "B" student (Part 1)

<p>Great cumulative advice on how to manage the college process! I know it will help the 2013 parents. I really wish I’d come to this thread - and CC - much earlier. I’ve been dealing with college stuff since 2004, but didn’t find my way here until youngest had submitted most of his applications. Even so, the support and perspective made a difference.</p>

<p>Anyone here dealing with serious senioritis (as we used to call it)? Since receiving his college acceptances, and emerging from the grim stress of it all, my S has been having a wonderful life reading books, playing ball, joining clubs (yes, now he has some ECs, thank you very much!), going to concerts…last night I came home and found out HE FORGOT TO STUDY FOR FINALS. Oops! There are 2 today plus a term paper due and tomorrow is even worse…Made a midnight run for ADHD meds… A few days ago I posted that he didn’t want to go to his graduation. Let’s hope he has a choice about it. I am serious!!</p>

<p>My S had his decision in December, so senoiritis has been plaguing us for a while. He says that he is “so done with school” and can’t figure out why teachers insist on still giving homework. He just wants to get to college now.</p>

<p>It’s winding down pretty quickly now, with APs over the next two weeks.</p>

<p>Rockville Mom, funny story. You really should take your show on the road! Thanks for not deserting the class of 2013 in our time of need!</p>

<p>I thought I updated decision here…
NYU- BFA theater (Atlantic)</p>

<p>@fourkidsmom- if you want to update the list just copy and paste into a new post, and add the new info!</p>

<p>Chardo’s S: U of Alabama (Honors College, full scholarship), Georgia Tech, RIT ($15K/yr scholarship)
Cherryhillmomto2’s S: Rutgers (attending)
Chocchip: S1 freshman at Tufts, class of '15, S2 h.s. soph, h.s. class of '14
DDMLE’s S: Muhlenberg (attending)
Fourkidsmom: D1Colgate '10, S1 Purdue (senior attending with a co-op), D2 NYU Tisch
Ittliz’s D: Universities of Kansas, Oregon, Indiana and Colorado - Boulder; Michigan State U
LINYMOM’s DD: Delaware '14
Mdmomfromli’s D: Cornell University (attending),Tulane, Indiana (Honors)
mhc48: D2, UDel '15 (D1, Colgate '09; S, UMich '12)
MoltoBene’s S: Michigan '15; D2:Rush Medical College '15, D1:Tulane '09
Momjr’s D2: Boston U '15, D1: U Penn '12
Mom2009’s S: Universities of Indiana and Vermont (scholarship), Qunnipiac (scholarship)
Orangemom12’s DD: UF '13, DS1: UF '13, DS2: Pittsburgh, UMN/Twin Cities, UCF
Pamom59’s D2: Drexel (attending, $12,000/yr scholarship), JMU, Penn State, Pitt, Delaware ($3,500 scholarswhip) Temple ($2,500 scholarship) (D1 Pitt ’15)
Phillyartmom: Ringling College of Art (attending, no awards yet given), Tyler @ Temple ($3,000/yr); MassArt ($8,000/yr), Maryland Institute College of Art (MICA), Rochester Institute of Technology (for Illustration)
PRJ’s D2: Tulane (D1: Brandeis '13)
Rockvillemom’s S: Elon (attending), Towson
Rodney: D2 : Elon 2015 D1 : Newhouse@Syracuse 2012
Samtalya’s S: Elon (Engagement scholarship) (attending)
Seiclan’s S: University of Central Florida Honors Program, FSU Honors, Emory U (attending)
Simpkin’s S: Albright, Lycoming, U of Kansas, McDaniel
Socaldad’s DELAWARE(Attending) College of Charleston; Universities of Pittsburgh, Colorado - Boulder, Kansas, Indiana; Michigan State U, Oregon, Alabama,. D1 U Texas 2013
Spectrum2’s S: UT - Austin: Texas A&M
Srandrew’s S: U of Vermont (scholarship); Quinnipiac
Sujormik’s D: Tulane, U of Pittsburgh, Drexel ($23K/yr scholarship)
Uskoolfish: D2: NYU '16 (Studio Art–ED–attending), Accepted Pratt ($14K merit award–withdrew), Accepted SUNY New Paltz (withdrew); D1 (NYU '12–Vocal Performance/MT)
Vitrac: D1 Tulane '14
911C2S’s S: Bucknell (attending), Universities of Pittsburgh, Tulsa ($16,000/yr scholarship), St. Louis ($12K/yr scholarship)</p>

<p>Chardo’s S: U of Alabama (Honors College, full scholarship), Georgia Tech, RIT ($15K/yr scholarship)
Cherryhillmomto2’s S: Rutgers (attending)
Chocchip: S1 freshman at Tufts, class of '15, S2 h.s. soph, h.s. class of '14
DDMLE’s S: Muhlenberg (attending)
Fourkidsmom: D1Colgate '10, S1 Purdue (senior attending with a co-op), D2 NYU Tisch
Ittliz’s D: Universities of Kansas, Oregon, Indiana and Colorado - Boulder; Michigan State U
LINYMOM’s DD: Delaware '14
Mdmomfromli’s D: Cornell University (attending),Tulane, Indiana (Honors)
mhc48: D2, UDel '15 (D1, Colgate '09; S, UMich '12)
MoltoBene’s S: Michigan '15; D2:Rush Medical College '15, D1:Tulane '09
Momjr’s D2: Boston U '15, D1: U Penn '12
Mom2009’s S: Universities of Indiana and Vermont (scholarship), Qunnipiac (scholarship)
Orangemom12’s DD: UF '13, DS1: UF '13, DS2: Pittsburgh, UMN/Twin Cities, UCF
Pamom59’s D2: Drexel (attending, $12,000/yr scholarship), JMU, Penn State, Pitt, Delaware ($3,500 scholarswhip) Temple ($2,500 scholarship) (D1 Pitt ’15)
Phillyartmom: Ringling College of Art (attending, no awards yet given), Tyler @ Temple ($3,000/yr); MassArt ($8,000/yr), Maryland Institute College of Art (MICA), Rochester Institute of Technology (for Illustration)
PRJ’s D2: Tulane (D1: Brandeis '13)
psychmom: D, Vassar '14; S, NYU '16
Rockvillemom’s S: Elon (attending), Towson
Rodney: D2 : Elon 2015 D1 : Newhouse@Syracuse 2012
Samtalya’s S: Elon (Engagement scholarship) (attending)
Seiclan’s S: University of Central Florida Honors Program, FSU Honors, Emory U (attending)
Simpkin’s S: Albright, Lycoming, U of Kansas, McDaniel
Socaldad’s DELAWARE(Attending) College of Charleston; Universities of Pittsburgh, Colorado - Boulder, Kansas, Indiana; Michigan State U, Oregon, Alabama,. D1 U Texas 2013
Spectrum2’s S: UT - Austin: Texas A&M
Srandrew’s S: U of Vermont (scholarship); Quinnipiac
Sujormik’s D: Tulane, U of Pittsburgh, Drexel ($23K/yr scholarship)
Uskoolfish: D2: NYU '16 (Studio Art–ED–attending), Accepted Pratt ($14K merit award–withdrew), Accepted SUNY New Paltz (withdrew); D1 (NYU '12–Vocal Performance/MT)
Vitrac: D1 Tulane '14
911C2S’s S: Bucknell (attending), Universities of Pittsburgh, Tulsa ($16,000/yr scholarship), St. Louis ($12K/yr scholarship)</p>

<p>What a beautiful list. Congrats All!</p>

<p>Momom2 - Must have taken a bit of courage to get up there in front of the whole school. Kudos to your S (and you) for Jewish Pride. Welcome!</p>

<p>Can I get a shout out list of this thread’s Parents of the HS Class of 2013?
I’d like to get a handle on who’s on this Round II journey.
I’ll start:
LINYMOM
Vandygrad87
champs2004
Momom2
LuvMomN8ur </p>

<p>And, how about Parents of kids in 2014, 2015 & beyond?
socaldad42?
LuvMomN8ur - 2016</p>

<p>LuvMomN8er: Great idea to make that list of those of us with '13ers. I’m actually done after that!</p>

<p>Stiller17: Welcome to our thread! We have great info here for schools for B kids, but I don’t know how much we can tell you about Indian students at these schools. I know that I, for one, don’t have any info. You are welcome to stay here, but you might want to start your own thread, too. Just a suggestion so you can more quickly get the info you need.</p>

<p>Continuation of our ACT saga… DS is registered to take it again in June. He understands the finances and his abilities. He completely believes he can improve on a couple of sections enough to increase his composite further (and thus be more “in the money” at his top school). He’s really such a good kid (if I may say so myself!). I just have to remember that, while I’m a morning person, ready to discuss things at 6:30 am, that is his worst time of the day. If I hit him around 4 or 5, he is always more receptive. Oh, yeah, he’s a teen :)</p>

<p>LuvMomN8ur you can add me to the Class of 2013 list as well. Daughter will be a senior next year. My twins are sophomores at Delaware with Linymom’s daughter.</p>

<p>Stiller17’s post (#13610, above) was sarcastic, as he/she is actually a college-bound student and not a parent. It is our annual, or semi-annual, reminder that there are people who simply do not or will not understand why someone would care whether or not there is a Jewish community at a given school.</p>

<p>I love Lisztserve’s commentary on Senioritis. It is a real problem. Except for taking on ECs, finally! Priceless. Fortunately, in our state they exempt seniors from the state standardized testing, so my son was able to go in late two days this week and has no school today. Meanwhile, my poor D, who is a sophomore, is slogging away on her 3rd set of 3-hour tests this week. (Not so many years back, they DID test seniors; The School of Hard Knocks got rid of that requirement pretty fast when they recognized how much the seniors NO LONGER CARED!). Weather turned nice in SoCal after a week of bizarro clouds and cold, so this compounds problems as seniors contemplate additional cut days to the beach. Son’s AP Calculus teacher gave them their final 1.5 months early, last Sunday, if you can believe it, ostensibly as preparation for AP, but I really do not understand this. Does this mean he won’t have to do anything from AP time until mid-June? On the other extreme, other AP teachers, not satisfied with all the work the kids have already done, give long, drawn-out research assignments. Honestly. My DS has just checked out and hangs on FB now with his new friends from his university. I have admonished him about a strong finish, knowing full well that Ds and Fs will doom him and that Cs are ridiculous at this point in his career. Any thoughts, folks?</p>

<p>I concur with DeskPotato re Stiller17. May be a ■■■■■, but if not, certainly lacks empathy on many levels. Columbia? Engineering? Right. That is the profile of what Indian parents would choose for their child as it is the only major valued in India (plus the MBA for graduate school). But getting in with lousy SATs like that individual claims? I doubt it.</p>

<p>I’m a little hurt by Stiller’s post here, because it contains far less humor and sly sarcasm than he/she’s shown on other forums. Why do the Chances forum denizens get beautiful nuggets like “Awards: Chess Club Participant, School Wide Spelling Bee 2nd place (Out of 19 participants!!), Beach Clean-Up Participant, April Go-Kart league champion (points-leader)” while we just get cheap shots? Is it something we’ve said?</p>

<p>;) :slight_smile: :D</p>

<p>Re Stiller’s post:</p>

<p>I agree that it seems overly snarky, esp. as our group is very inclusive. </p>

<p>I checked out some of his/her other posts, and I really thoght this was quite funny:</p>

<p>Proven Secrets to SAT Success </p>

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<p>When I began my SAT preperation I had a 1790 out of 2400 total score. Now, after using my dad’s proven methods I score at least a 2300 on every practice test and got a 2330 at the March SAT administration. I know how hard everyone on CC works, so i only thought it is fair that I share my techniques with all of you especially since I gained a lot of tips by reading these forums. Good Luck!</p>

<p>Buy at least 5 or 6 practice books including the big blue college board one.</p>

<p>CR:</p>

<p>Read 50 pages of dictionary (you don’t have to memorize every word but just read it through, trust me!)
Read 7 articles from your local newspaper every day under test-like conditions. That means grab a pencil or pen and underline important facts. After reading the article, write down 3 possible tone words for each article.
When doing practice CR sections, any question you get wrong, shout out the correct answer and the reason you got it wrong. This unorthodox tactic has been shown to improve recall of common errors that you usually make.</p>

<p>M:</p>

<p>Perform 30 sit-ups (it sounds crazy I know) while a parent reads SAT math practice questions to you and you answer. I know this sounds insane, but it is the best way to prep for the stress and adrenaline of test.
When the practice problems say “suppose you have a jar with 20 blue marbles…” actually get the jar. Trust me. They always ask the same types of questions like this, and this is the best way to visualize and answer the questions easily. Make sure you hvae different color marbles on hand. For triangle questions, actually cut a triangle out of construction paper to help you. After awhile, you will be able to see these in your head, and you will have a huge advantage on test day. </p>

<p>W:</p>

<p>For essay practice, try writing with both your dominant and non-dominant hands. I find this is a great way to not only continue practicing when your dominant hand is tired, but also my friend broke his right wrist a week before the test and couldn’t take it. Don’t let this happen to you. If you’re serious about SAT preparation, you might as well try this because research shows that writing with your non-dominant hand allows you to access the other side of your brain and unlock new creativity and thought patterns.
Buy The Elements of Style and read it 5 times. Memorize it. It is your friend. It is your mother. It is your bible!!</p>

<p>Not to mention…</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/columbia-university/1231402-chance-me.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/columbia-university/1231402-chance-me.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>and</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/109956-1750-sat-too-low-2.html#post14329614[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/109956-1750-sat-too-low-2.html#post14329614&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Where Stiller says s/he got into Columbia with a 1790 SAT.</p>

<p>You can add me to the list of class of 2013</p>

<p>Might I suggest, in the interest of making the list as useful as possible for posterity, perhaps starring the kids who are A-/A students?</p>

<p>I read many, many threads before registering for College Confidential and posting on the forums, and a list like this would have thrown me off and had me believing that could get a full scholarship to Alabama, get into UPenn, Tufts, or Cornell, etc.</p>

<p>I know the occasional student with a B average and a great story or hook does achieve these feats of college admission, but, if I’m not mistaken, the kids represented on this list are usually the A student sibling of a B student, correct? So just to help folks down the road with a realistic sense of where a kid with a B average can end up, maybe those kids should be flagged.</p>

<p>Just a thought. There are probably ten lurkers who just read the thread and never post for every person who participates.</p>

<p>Parents Class of 2013
LINYMOM
Vandygrad87
champs2004
Momom2
LuvMomN8ur
palmharbor
Mom24boys</p>

<p>DeskPotato - I think the question of a B student versus an A/A- is difficult to pin down. Kids are fluid and a lot of A/A- kids are looking for merit. I also think this thread is a place for parents who are looking beyond rank. I started follow this thread after DS freshman year and he was a solid 3.3, I had no idea what the next two years would bring (still holding my breathe for the last few wks of junior yr.) This is a very welcoming group which I appreciate. </p>

<p>The Alabama scholarships are closely tied to test scores and only require a 3.5 GPA which can be weighted. Out of State scholarships for Alabama are outlined below, I left off National Merit Finalists.</p>

<p>Out-of-State Scholarships for 2012-2013</p>

<p>Please review our FAQ section for details on the scholarships listed below.
Capstone Scholar</p>

<p>An out-of-state first-time freshman student who meets the December 1st scholarship priority deadline, has a 27 ACT or 1210-1240 SAT score [critical reading and math scores only] and at least a 3.5 cumulative GPA will be selected as a Capstone Scholar and will receive $1,500 per year ($6,000 over four years).
Collegiate Scholar</p>

<p>An out-of-state first-time freshman student who meets the December 1st scholarship priority deadline, has a 28-29 ACT or 1250-1320 SAT score [critical reading and math scores only] and at least a 3.5 cumulative GPA will be selected as a Collegiate Scholar and will receive $3,500 per year ($14,000 over four years).
UA Scholar</p>

<p>An out-of-state first time freshman student who meets the December 1st scholarship priority deadline, has a 30-31 ACT or 1330-1390 SAT score [critical reading and math scores only] and at least a 3.5 cumulative GPA will be selected as a UA Scholar and will receive 2/3 tuition for four years.
Presidential Scholar</p>

<p>An out-of-state first-time freshman student who meets the December 1st scholarship priority deadline, has a 32-36 ACT or 1400-1600 SAT score [critical reading and math scores only] and at least a 3.5 cumulative GPA will be selected as a Presidential Scholar and will receive the value of out-of-state tuition for four years.</p>

<p>Parents Class of 2013
LINYMOM
Vandygrad87
champs2004
Momom2
LuvMomN8ur
palmharbor
Mom24boys
Vitrac</p>