Colleges for the Jewish "B" student (Part 1)

<p>Expatcanuck - I know some kids with LD issues who are doing very well at Towson. I think there is a lot of support there as well as plenty of tribe members to hang with.</p>

<p>I don’t know much about Hampshire, but it has been on this thread numerous times re: anti-semetic sentiment on the part of the University…I’m not knowledgeable enough to remember why, just be cautious as you do your research.</p>

<p>I do know only wonderful things re: Clark Univ. and their strong Jewish student body…but again, don’t know anything re: LD support on campus. If you live in MA, then Clark may be a great option if you both choose not to go too far…</p>

<p>There is a father named Shawbridge on cc that you may want to contact…he also lives in MA, has a dual US and Canadian citizenship and has a son with LD. Because he lives in MA, he might be able to help you narrow down your selections!</p>

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Googling ‘Hampshire College’, ‘SJP’ and ‘divestment’ paints a sufficiently ugly picture. That kind of angst we do not need, particularly on such a small campus. Good to know – thanks.</p>

<p>Clark is my son’s current first choice, tho’ also perhaps the greatest reach. <sigh></sigh></p>

<p>Ever onward … .</p>

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Thanks.
Based on bigfuture.collegeboard, my son seems to fit at Towson
from an [url=<a href=“http://oldwithoutmoney.com/towsonSAT.png]SAT[/url”>http://oldwithoutmoney.com/towsonSAT.png]SAT[/url</a>] perspective, but not so much with the [url=<a href=“http://oldwithoutmoney.com/towsonGPA.png]GPA[/url”>http://oldwithoutmoney.com/towsonGPA.png]GPA[/url</a>].</p>

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<p>^ With the SAT/GPA discrepancy, I am going to guess that the GPA is an average of higher grades in his subjects of interest, with lower grades in other subjects rather than a straight average. Average SAT scores of incoming freshmen are used in college rankings, so a college where your son’s scores are at the higher end of the applicant pool and one that takes a holistic approach to admissions might be a good place, and also one that would be small enough to give him some individual attention so he could excell in his strong areas. I’m not familar with the colleges in your area, but I wonder if any of them fit this?</p>

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Actually, with the exception of a ‘C+’ in Spanish this year (owing in part to his LD), his grades are pretty even. This year’s transcript shows consistent improvement (B- to B to B+ in Alg2 & English, B- to B in U.S. History, C+ to B- to A- in Cell Bio). He’s basically a late bloomer who finally seems to be learning how to manage schoolwork, study, and do the assignment as assigned <a href=“damn%20it!!”>size=1</a>[/size]. </p>

<p>His raw intelligence has always seemed to be somewhere between pretty good and scary good.</p>

<p>As regards schools with holistic assessment, of the ~20 schools on our list, most are small-medium LACs (many from the CTCL list), so I think they fit that bill. (Arcadia, Goucher, OWU, Eckerd, Wheaton (MA), Marist, Muhlenberg, HWS, McDaniel, St. Mary’s (MD), Wooster, St. Olaf & Beloit)</p>

<p>There are also 4 large universities on the list (mostly my son’s additions), of which I’m keen on only one (UVM).</p>

<p>expatCanuck, my kids are dual citizens as my wife is Canadian and we live in MA just as chocchipcookie reported (good memory). Both my kids have LDs. One is beyond gifted and severely dyslexic, ADD, speech delay. Languages are impossible for him. The other is quite bright but not intellectual and ADHD. She gets pretty anxious about things. She’s actually great at speaking foreign languages – she’s quite proficient in French – but is not good at grammar. Both had issues with organizing their lives and planning work.</p>

<p>I don’t know the admissions criteria of the schools on your list. Goucher, St Mary’s, and Wooster were on ShawD’s list that she made for her GC. She had somewhat higher grades (went from B/B- to A-/B over her four years of HS, improving the way your son did). However, she decided very quickly only to apply to Canadian schools because they would tell her up front whether she would be admitted. She didn’t want to deal with months of anxiety waiting to learn whether schools had admitted her. She then transferred back to the US when she decided to switch from biology to nursing and is doing fabulously well at at school in Boston. In Canada, the school offered folks with LDs peer tutors if they signed up – these were older students in a similar field who helped her plan her work, know what was coming prepare for tests, etc… She did (eventually) and it was really helpful. But, the big school/big classes/test-focused Canadian system was not a good fit for her. She’s now at a smaller school and gets asked to tutor in science classes and has great grades. And, she’s quite happy – I think she liked her social life in Canada.</p>

<p>I would recommend the school she applied to but chose not to attend: Mt. Allison University in Sackville, NB. Seemed like a nice academic environment. Probably your son would get in. Her concerns about it were: a) it wasn’t particularly Jewish (and that is important to her); and b) she’s not an outdoorsy girl and it seemed to her a pretty outdoors oriented place. She went to a summer science program there before her senior year and really enjoyed it and the place. </p>

<p>I’ve written about my son elsewhere on CC (search for ShawSon or Shawbridge and dyslexic, maybe). He’s not a good comparison as he is a) blindingly smart (for those of you know math, he attended less than 25% of the classes in a real analysis (a challenging math course) because he was writing an honors thesis and starting up a software company and got the highest grade in the course in part because the professor assigned a couple of problems that he didn’t expect anyone to get but ShawSon not knowing that this material hadn’t been covered stayed up all night for a second night to prove the theorems); b) driven to succeed; c) was always willing to admit he had LDs and seek support; and d) highly strategic about figuring out what work had to be done and what could be avoided so that he could maximize his performance given the constraints on the speed of his reading and writing and work stamina. He primarily applied to elite schools and was admitted to several.</p>

<p>My advice to him was a) go to a school with no or easy to manage distribution requirements; b) smaller is better because the professors will quickly see how smart he was; c) draw on the school and others for help; and d) stay relatively close to home. My wife’s cousin coached him in HS and continued to do so over a distance in college. I had also told him earlier in life that he was very smart but that he would have to work harder than anyone else for the rest of his life if he wanted to succeed and that that was just a fact. He’s just graduated from an elite LAC and did extremely well. I think many of the rules that apply but the level of schools would be different.</p>

<p>Thanks very much, shawbridge. </p>

<p>We’ll check out Mt. Allison. I just got off the phone with my (Toronto-based) mom,
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<p>Dalhousie was already on our radar, as my son has a passion for marine biology.
That said, I see that Mt. A has programs in Environmental Studies and
International Relations, which will certainly pique his interest.
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<p>Hi. I visited Bowling Green State University in Ohio with my S2 last week. We both really liked it. Lots of learning support, nice small downtown area and the type of environment my S is looking for. I know they don’t have a large jewish population, but I was wondering if anyone here knew of jewish students who went there, and what kind of experiences they had. It’s not important to my S that he have jewish friends and a jewish outlet, but it is to me. On their website, it shows a Hillel, and the Hillel website shows approx 200 jewish students out of population of 20,000. </p>

<p>Any thoughts?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>Hey guys so im new on here and was wondering if you guys might be able to help me out, since you all seem to know a lot! my current stats are</p>

<p>GPA: 3.96 uw 4.37 w
ACT: 29 (hoping to raise it:/) 30 susperscored
Good extra currics and lots of volunteering.</p>

<p>I need merit scholarships since I wont qualify for financial aid. Could anyone suggest schools that would be under 30k (with any scholarships I might recieve based on my stats). I really appreciate it, as I am getting beyond stressed out trying to find a good and affordable option with my low ACT! </p>

<p>Areas im looking to go to school in:
Illinois (in state)
DC
Florida
N and s Caroline
California
Arizona
Texas</p>

<p>Thanks so much guys! :)</p>

<p>I would look at Tulane. In past years, they have been generous with merit money. If you can get your act score up just a little, you will be in good shape. Look at schools where your grades and scores put you in the top 10%, and you will get money.</p>

<p>Only on CC is a 29 ACT considered a “low score”.</p>

<p>Anyways, you’d probably get some OOS merit money at University of Arizona. A number of students in my high school class with worse stats than yours got a fair bit of money from UA. I’m not sure it will be enough to lower the COA down to <$30,000 a year.</p>

<p>If you’re willing to go three hours north of Dallas, University of Oklahoma has a surprisingly vibrant Jewish life, and costs (before merit scholarships) less than $30,000 a year. You’d almost certainly qualify for the honors college and get some merit awards assuming you apply before December. If you want more details about the school, feel free to PM me.</p>

<p>College of Charleston in South Carolina attracts a good number of Jews although it seems to be more of a B student school.</p>

<p>Are you looking into any particular size or environment? Any major(s) you’re interested in?</p>

<p>Hi - Tulane and University of Miami both give generous merit aid - but you are starting at a $50,000+ pricetag - so even with $20,000 in merit aid - you are still facing a $30,000+ bill.</p>

<p>Generally speaking - your in-state options will be the most affordable.</p>

<p>Tulane is up to $60K, Miami a little less than that. Crazy, right?</p>

<p>Yup! That $50K train has left the station. You now need to use a generalization of $60k+ to cover the costs of many private universities.</p>

<p>Those prices are insane! Very glad Elon is at a more reasonable $40,000 - relatively speaking.</p>

<p>By contrast, UIUC - in-state - is about $11,600 for tuition plus room & board - would be in the $20,000 ballpark, I would guess. I would certainly suggest Nikkkki apply to some in-state options - as well as seeing where she can get enough merit aid.</p>

<p>Nikkki - Eckerd College in Florida is another possibility. Their total cost for the upcoming year is $47,000 and their top merit scholarship is $17,000 - bring you right to the $30,000 mark. The top scholarship (Trustee) is for a 3.77GPA/29 ACT - so you would seem to be eligible.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.eckerd.edu/admissions/finaid/aid.php#tablink.scholarship.academic[/url]”>http://www.eckerd.edu/admissions/finaid/aid.php#tablink.scholarship.academic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.eckerd.edu/admissions/cost.php[/url]”>http://www.eckerd.edu/admissions/cost.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Do you have a preference as to the size of the school? Eckerd is rather small. What are you thinking of studying?</p>

<p>There were discussions of a few SC colleges a few posts back. What about College of Charleston - urban and lots of Jewish history:</p>

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<p>Thanks for the help! I prefer mid to large size schools. I plan to major in something business related. Im leaning towards international business. I know univ of south Carolina is great for that, but I really wana find other schools to have as options and if they were in DC it would be amazing! Thanks for the suggestions so far!</p>

<p>Nikkkkki, get your ACT up to 30 (one sitting) and Alabama will automatically give you 2/3 tuition scholarship. Total cost would be about $23,000. If you major in engineering or computer science, they will bump it up to full tuition scholarship plus additional $2500 per year. Total cost would be about $12,000.</p>