Colleges for the Jewish "B" student (Part 1)

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<p>New edition is out.</p>

<p>Thanks RM; too bad the deadline has passed to get a hard copy…looks like Vandy has achieved their goal and then some…not surprised…</p>

<p>Interesting that Emory is still 30% Jewish since they are only 40% white/caucasian for the incoming class…</p>

<p>Thanks, rockvillemom! It might be worthwhile for people to look at older versions, to see schools that have just missed being listed and to see what schools have moved up or down (if you want to read tea leaves).</p>

<p>Thanks, RM! This list is really interesting. The biggest surprise to me is the Jewish population percentage in Canadian schools on the list.</p>

<p>I’d be wary of York University in Canada, however.</p>

<p>[Matt</a> Gurney: Anti-semitism at York University - Full Comment](<a href=“http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/02/13/matt-gurney-anti-semitism-at-york-university.aspx]Matt”>http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/02/13/matt-gurney-anti-semitism-at-york-university.aspx)</p>

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<p>I have seen numerous articles describing anti-Semitic incidents at this school despite the 11% Jewish population.</p>

<p>I always enjoy looking at the list - but for S2 - it is completely irrelevant - other than Muhlenberg - there are no schools on there that would be suitable for him. They seem to be predominantly large universities or schools for “A” students.</p>

<p>I also find it amusing that the Princeton Review’s list of top party schools came out today - and there are some overlaps! University of Florida made both lists as did University of Maryland and Penn State.</p>

<p>Top 20 Party Schools:

  1. University of Georgia
  2. Ohio University
  3. Penn State
  4. West Virginia University
  5. University of Mississippi
  6. University of Texas at Austin
  7. University of Florida
  8. University of California – Santa Barbara
  9. University of Iowa
  10. DePauw University
  11. Florida State University
  12. University of Wisconsin - Madison
  13. University of Alabama
  14. Sewanee - The University of the South
  15. Indiana University - Bloomington
  16. University of Colorado - Boulder
  17. University of Missouri
  18. University of Illinois
  19. University of Maryland
  20. Michigan State University</p>

<p>Read more at Suite101: Top American Party Schools 2010-2011: Princeton Review Rankings <a href=“Suite 101 - How-tos, Inspiration and Other Ideas to Try”>Suite 101 - How-tos, Inspiration and Other Ideas to Try;

<p>There are a couple of other relatively small schools that take B students–American Jewish University and Goucher. Not necessarily a fit for any one student, of course.</p>

<p>I learned from the last list that just because a school is listed doesn’t in and of itself guarantee that the school will have the type of Jewish community that a student might be looking for. D1 toured Reed, which made previous lists for having a large percentage of Jewish students. Yet there was no Hillel, and D1 didn’t want a campus that had a Chabad but no Hillel. She then visited and toured at U of Oregon. U of O has a large and vibrant Hillel, but isn’t on the list. </p>

<p>Did anyone else take a look at the article in the same RJ issue showing the Wesleyan Sukkah? Totally and typically Wesleyan. ;)</p>

<p>Here is an extraction from the Reform Judaism magazine (correct me if I am wrong, anyone, but I tried to extract schools appropriate for B students):
Muhlenberg
Goucher
Yeshiva
Syracuse
American
Brandeis (included because the average stats are not as high as you might think)
University of Hartford
Hofstra
Long Island University
Pratt Institute (I am not sure about the average stats here, but it is highly specialized and it also has affiliates for the first two years)
Northeastern
University of Denver
Drexel
University of Central Florida
Rutgers
Penn State
Queens College
Indiana University
Arizona State
SUNY Albany
Florida International University
Brooklyn College
Florida State
Ohio State
Western Ontario
University of Southern Florida
Michigan State
Florida Atlantic
Cal State
and, if they can get the situation under control: York, although I agree RM that this is very concerning. Where is the leadership here?
And, if someone has the lists from previous years, we can add to this.</p>

<p>fyi, for those of you who didn’t get a chance to look at the entire Princeton Review ranking list yet…</p>

<h1>1 school that “runs like butter”</h1>

<p>Elon University…</p>

<p>but it was also on the list of schools that was “bad for financial aid”…(#7)…</p>

<p>the second one is not a surprise if you have read the George Keller book; they prefer to discount tuition rather than use alot of FA and merit to attract students…</p>

<p>and I agree with RM; most of the schools on that list from Reform Magazine are for “A” students or are too large…(except for a few of levirm’s list)</p>

<p>I haven’t had a chance to go through either the Reform Judaism or Princeton Review lists yet. But I did order a hard copy of the Reform Judaism guide. </p>

<p>We dropped D off at a pre college program at Syracuse this past weekend. She is staying in a 1960’s dorm! Looked well kept though. Other than the University, the city of Syracuse is not much to look at! I am sure I won’t hear much from her for the next two weeks. I’ll post her impressions when she comes home.</p>

<p>Well, that is the downside to Elon if you have a low EFC. The sticker is 35-36,000. If you have an EFC that is around that amount, it works. If you have an EFC that is substantially lower, it may not work out (also depends upon getting a little merit aid, but this school does not give out oodles in merit aid to most who qualify, if I recall correctly. Merit aid is in line with sticker price at the end of the day).</p>

<p>^^ correct; and the merit aid would not be for the “B” student anyway…</p>

<p>Elon merit aid still seems to be primarily the $4500 Presidential Scholarship. I’m surprised they have not increased the amount - as the COA does go up every year. S1 rcvd this award when he applied in 2008-09 and the amount appears to still be the same.</p>

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<p>As always…excellent information to ponder!</p>

<p>To add to levirm’s list, UC Santa Cruz. VERY interesting to see which UC campuses have the largest number of Jewish students. UCLA (no surprise) and UCSB and UCSC. </p>

<p>I don’t think of Brandeis as a B-student school unless there are very high test scores and a highly rigorous curriculum as counterweights. I’d be happy to be proven wrong. :)</p>

<p>American Jewish University is B-student friendly but is a very very small school.</p>

<p>Do you all have your hard copies of the RJ Magazine? Ours hasn’t arrived yet.</p>

<p>Thanks for pointing out UC Santa Cruz - it’s on D2’s radar because it makes all the “schools with a hippie vibe” lists ;)</p>

<p>Re: Brandeis - I’d have to agree that it probably isn’t a B-student school. D1 is a rising sophomore and our read of their admissions stats led us to believe that with a 3.7 GPA, Brandeis was a “reachy match” for her. It was also her dream school so she applied ED to improve her chances.</p>

<p>I think Brandeis is also a more “intellectual” school than some others and might not be a good fit for most “B” students for that reason as well.</p>

<p>Just took a look at Brandeis on our Naviance - our hs has had good results - but I suspect those who apply are well-qualified. We had 5 out of 7 accepted in 2010 and 10 out of 12 accepted in 2009. Only 2 matriculated - looks like a safety school for some with HYP dreams. The average weighted GPA was 4.3 - 4.4 for accepted students - and they generally had SAT scores of 1200 and up. There was one ED admit with a 4.3 WGPA and an 1150 - that’s about as low as it goes.</p>

<p>I notice a short term fantastic deal on Southwest Airlines to both Pittsburgh and Boston before school starts. Does anyone know of any good Boston schools to recommend for the B plus student, particularly with lower tuition cost? Anyone know how to get to Robert Morris University from the airport? I am very excited about these low airfares so I want to open up more possibilities in the Pittsburgh an Boston areas.</p>

<p>Isn’t Robert Morris for the B- student?</p>

<p>Boston, B+, and low cost does not compute for me. That was the problem with northeastern city schools for me. I will be watching for responses though. I don’t know about aid and scholarships, but what about looking into Endicott College? I don’t even know if they have business program. I have just heard that it has a beautiful campus. Still, it is not in Boston (it is in Beverly, MA). I don’t know much about it, but the name of the school comes up on cc every now and then. I don’t know if they have a Hillel either.</p>

<p>Just looked up the cost of Endicott and they don’t look so wonderful in terms of merit aid (average merit is 6 thousand and something, and on average they only meet 60% of financial need). That is not good enough for me, but if it works out for your EFC… They only offer the business and marketing majors (only looked on the Collegeboard website for that info, so might want to look on the school’s site). I don’t know if they have AACSB accreditation. Seems like this is a school that has B students.</p>

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<p>This was exactly my feeling. D insisted on visiting and taking a tour, even though I knew her chances of being accepted were a long-shot, at best. I definitely would not be the one to hold her back from at least trying for her “dream.” After the info session and tour (led by a classic over-achiever), D realized that, even if she got in, she would have to work SO hard just to keep up. It just doesn’t come that easy to her. Way too cerebral for her.</p>

<p>It is, however, on the list I have started for my S (HS soph). Completely different kid.</p>

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