<p>One weird factoid about Salisbury - a friend’s D will be starting there this year and she’s required to check into her dorm room at 6:30 AM on some day in August. Since they live more than 2 1/2 hours away, they’ll have to stay overnight somewhere nearby to make that deadline.</p>
<p>How odd! I’ve never heard of anything like that. Perhaps once your friend’s D is settled in - you’ll have some feedback for us? I find it surprising, but I do not know anyone who has a student currently at Salisbury.</p>
<p>I suggest you take a look at the Facebook page for the Salisbury Class of 2014. There are 746 members, so you can unscientifically guess a %. The Salisbury website student organization page does not list a Hillel. It lists a Jewish Student Organization, which has no website.</p>
<p>Yabeyabe - I did call a few months back and asked about the Jewish Students group. While it is still listed on the club section of the website - it is apparently inactive - or at least that’s what I was told. I will check out FB - good thought.</p>
<p>This is really just and note to MDC–there is a thread in the Business Major forum here on CC discussing becoming an actuary and the academic requirements, etc., if you want to check it out.</p>
<p>I also just want to add a note about the sports culture on various campuses. </p>
<p>My youngest son will be heading back to American University to start his soph year next week. He is a jock on a non-jock campus but he has still found “his people.” He plays on the club soccer team (and turned down an invite to try out/walk on the university team) and also on a team in an adult league in DC. He also plays a lot of ultimate with friends, and has friends with whom he runs and works out. He gets much better grades when he in physically active!</p>
<p>He and his friends support the AU soccer team and basketball team, going to a lot of games.</p>
<p>They also take part in the DC professional sports scene. They can often get tickets to professional sports at great discounts through the office on campus.</p>
<p>It’s certainly not the same scene you are going to get at a sports dominated campus with a big football program. That’s unlikely to be found at most small-to-medium schools–especially those with a lot of Jewish kids! But there is still the opportunity to support a team and go to games. And there also seems to be a bigger opportunity for the students to participate themselves, which for some students is worth a lot.</p>
<p>— about weird Salisbury time - another friend’s D is going and her check in time is 11:30 AM. Turns out they’re going in alphabetical order. Last name B = 6:30 AM, last name H = 11:30 AM. Also, the entire football team is there to help and will carry up your boxes if they’re labeled. </p>
<p>Neither girl is Jewish, but I’ll let you know what they think of the whole Salisbury experience. Both are from MD, one is going into nursing, the other - I’m not sure.</p>
<p>Boysx3 makes a good point–ensure your sports-minded kids focus not just on nationally ranked football teams, but on the quality of club and intramural programs for them to play, not just watch.</p>
<p>boysx3 - fabulous post - I think S2 needs to read it. And you hit the nail on the head - there is no such thing as a small-medium sized school for a “B” Jewish student with great sports. Something has to give - either it has to be a larger university or not have much in the way of big-time sports or have minimal Jewish life. </p>
<p>Incidentally - we live very close to American - DH is an alum - S2 has said it is too close and he won’t consider it. But…you have me thinking maybe we should look at it. Now I know what I am researching tomorrow. Thanks.</p>
<p>Just wanted to echo the comment about sports…my D loves sports–both playing and watching. Initially, she wanted to attend a big pac-10 type school as her image of college was attending huge football games on Saturdays in the fall, as she and her dad do at our alma mater. As she continued to explore, she realized she wanted a smaller school, possibly fairly rural (much to all of our surprise–hers included!) but it had to have a sports scene, preferably D1. It also had to have an active club team in her main sport that she wants to continue to play. As she has narrowed down her list, which now stands at 10 schools, the sports issue has continued to be a major criteria but all the schools, including Elon, meet that criteria. Definitely don’t assume that a smaller school won’t have sports to either watch or participate in–you may be surprised.</p>
<p>AU-I thought it was a great school for politically oriented students. The day we visited, Hillel was setting up a barbecque on one of the lawn areas. The Hillel reps were very nice.
Main reason I think AU is not for Rockville Mom’s son is its limited Business offerings. Also, housing is tight. AU rep said some kids now have to live in triples-this may or may not be a concern for Rockville Mom’s son, but my son has Aspergers and needs a single, at least until the time he found a very similar roommate (must be very quiet, no late hours).
Towson sports, at least on its website, should be ok for Rockville Mom’s son.</p>
<p>I hope someone here on CC can find out more about the Jewish student group at Salisbury. Purdue Business, with its beautiful brand new large building scheduled to open next fall, with its many Business offerings at in state price at Salisbury, is very enticing.</p>
<p>Towson Business school is very old.</p>
<p>Also, wanted to mention for the benefit of OOS parents on CC, Salisbury is worth looking into for practical majors (Business, Nursing, Respiratory Therapy), and OOS tuition may still be very reasonable compared to some of the private schools mentioned on this thread.
I think we all just need more info. about the Jewish activities at Salisbury. Perhaps this would be a great opportunity for someone to start a Jewish group. I hear employers love to see leadership on resumes.</p>
<p>Several years ago my eldest was admitted to Towson as an OOS student. This was his rolling school and his first acceptance (heard back in early October and the turn around btn. having a complete application to notification was very quick). At the end of the day, for us, Towson was not at all affordable (OOS, no merit aid, and no FA grants). BTW, for my son Towson was either a low match or a safety. My kids did not apply to Salisbury, although this school was recommended for one of my children. My DH would not send his kid to a school with the same name as a steak /meat dish (I am not kidding)!</p>
<p>Actually, American University has very extensive Business offerings…my son feels there are so many classes that he wants to take he does not know how he will fit them all in! He is a sophormore at AU double majoring in international marketing and behavioral economics.</p>
<p>Something to be aware of…remember that all AASCB (do I have the acronym right?) accredited schools of business are required to have at least 50% of a student’s credit hours taken outside the school of business.</p>
<p>Have not run this past DH or S2 yet - but I think it would be worth a visit this fall - particularly since it is so close - would be an easy trip.</p>
<p>mdcissp - I think the Kogod School of Business has an excellent reputation and offers many majors/minors. Not sure why you would say it has limited business offerings - I don’t see it that way at all.</p>
<p>At first glance - AU does meet some of our criteria - business majors, Jewish population, medium-sized student body. I wonder about the fact that most students are very interested in politics and int’l relations - S2 is not the least bit interested in these topics - would that make it harder for him to fit in?</p>
<p>Also concerned re price. Had been trying to avoid the $50,000+ schools. Our Naviance looks like S2 would be reasonable for admissions - but doubtful he’d be strong enough for merit aid. So, this would be a school where we would require need-based FA - which I would love to avoid - but we’ll see.</p>
<p>So, if I can convince S2 that AU is worth a visit - I’ll let you know!</p>
<p>By the way my son made an interesting observation on his Jewish life at AU…</p>
<p>While he was exploring colleges, a Jewish presence on campus was his first filter…a campus without a significant Jewish presence was off his list no matter what else it had to offer…he did not want to be identified on campus as “that Jewish kid”</p>
<p>When he visited AU in fall of his senior year, he liked the rabbi and the kids he met when he checked out the Hillel.</p>
<p>Fast forward to the end of freshman year…</p>
<p>he was not nearly involved in Hillel as he thought he would be. He got too busy with new friends who shared some of his new interests. He definitely enjoyed having Hillel avaialble for holidays and the occasional Shabbat dinner , and he liked not being the only Kosher kid on campus.</p>
<p>He has a lot of Jewish friends, even though not being involved much in Hillel…and a lot of non-Jewish friends as well.</p>
<p>His observation? That maybe the physical presence of the Hillel is not as important on a campus with a large Jewish population because the kids can “do Jewish” without the need for the formal infrastructure…although he acknowledges that it is a chicken-and-egg situation.</p>
<p>As far as the interest in things political…my son wasn’t the typical politics-interested kid when he applied (maybe a positive admissions factor?)</p>
<p>But his interest in things political has certainly expanded this year, because business and economics and politics are all intertwined. </p>
<p>He is certainly getting a top-rate education in all of the above.</p>
<p>His economics seminar class this year had guest speakers from the World Bank and the IMF, among others.</p>
<p>boysx3 - very good observations - thank you. One of the things I struggle with is the ability to quantify things like the level of Jewish life and sports. When it comes to business - I can see the majors/minors offered, count the number of courses offered, etc. - not so with the other 2 “requirements”. We do want to stick to schools that have a Hillel - even if we don’t have any way of knowing while he is in hs how much he would actually participate - it’s just good to know it is there if he wants it - and I see it as a good place to start meeting people and making friends at the beginning of freshman year. But I get what you are saying - if there are a lot of Jewish students around anyway - you don’t have to become involved with Hillel in order to have some Jewish friends.</p>
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<p>I do think that there may be schools that list courses that are only offered once per year or even once every other year. Be careful about that. I do not have hard evidence, but I have heard and read these types of stories. You might want to check into this with each school that your son is interested in.</p>
<p>Northeastmom makes a good point…at all schools, be sure to check out the curricular plan for the major (s) your student is considering. It will generally illustrate what classes should be taken when and in what sequence.</p>
<p>Pay special attention to two-class sequences…the first class is sometimes offered in the fall semester only, which means that if your student doesn’t take the required class in the first semester, he will have to wait until the following fall to begin the sequence, which could seriously screw up progress towards the degree.</p>
<p>This is not true at all schools…several schools offer both courses for required sequences in both semesters.</p>
<p>But it’s important that a student keep on top of things like this when choosing classes.</p>
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