Colleges in the Same City: One Famous, the Other Not

[ilovebagels]

<p>It’s nice to be the famous school</p>

[DunninLA]

<p>You mean like UCLA and then USC?</p>

[bus52]

<p>University of Notre Dame and St. Marys in South Bend</p>

<p>My understanding is the St. Mary’s girls have access to ND classes and all social events, including season football tickets. I hear the guys at ND enjoy this arrangement with St. Marys but some of the ND girls aren’t thrilled.</p>

[Sheed30]

<p>nothing like that at all in portland</p>

[coureur]

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<p>I don’t think anyone doubts that Carleton is more selective, more academically challenging, and better known NATIONALLY<<</p>
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<p>I think St. Olaf is much better known nationally simply because they somehow got the PBS Christmas carol singing gig. I see them on TV every year. I’ve never seen Carleton on TV for any reason.</p>

[Xeneise]

<p>Duke and UNC :P</p>

[D.T]

<p>Cal Poly Pomona and Pomona College - a lesson in humility no doubt.</p>

[SoCal18]

<p>^^Too bad those schools aren’t in the same city…Pomona College is in Claremont.</p>

[Chedva]

<p>Scipio - it depended on what you were studying at BU. If you were an engineer, the “school across the river” was MIT. If you were humanities/social sciences (and particularly in the law school), the “school across the river” was Harvard.</p>

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if the UMass students feel any form of academic inferiority next to such a school, because they undoubtedly know that it’s right down the street and “superior” at least in some ways in the academic world.

No, because the schools are so vastly different - large university v. small LAC. And both are part of the Five College Consortium, so UMass students can take classes at Amherst College.</p>

[coureur]

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<p>Too bad those schools aren’t in the same city…Pomona College is in Claremont.<<</p>
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<p>Claremont and Pomona are adjacent and contiguous, and both are part of the LA metropolis. The campuses are separated by a short drive of about 6 or so miles down the I-10 freeway. Functionally, if not technically, they are in the same city.</p>

[hudsonvalley51]

<p>“Functionally, if not technically, they are in the same city.”^</p>

<p>The same might be said about Muhlenburg (Allentown) and Moravian (Bethlehem). Of course, both are overshadowed by Lehigh.</p>

[MLEVINE07]

<p>In truth, my friends who attend UMass Amherst still have no idea that Amherst College is a good school.</p>

[20LEGEND]

<p>Northwestern, U Chicago and Loyola U ?</p>

[joecollegedad]

<p>what about ISU and IWU</p>

<p>that is illinois state and illinois wesleyan in bloomington. one big state and the other top 60 lac.</p>

[smiles1011]

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You mean like UCLA and then USC?

The difference academically between these two schools is so insignificant at least in my opinion, it shouldn’t make much of a difference. I’m sure USC students feel otherwise though…</p>

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In truth, my friends who attend UMass Amherst still have no idea that Amherst College is a good school.

Wow… well, that’s typical I suppose, LACs never get proper recognition.</p>

<p>Maybe it’s useless to compare a large public school to these elite ones, so I guess it applies more to schools that are similar in size and overall atmosphere, like Vassar and Marist. Same beautiful small campus, liberal artsy (although Marist at least on USWNR is a “University-Master”, whatever that means… in my opinion everything is either U or LAC, with some U’s having LAC like qualities… but I digress…) So yeah, I don’t know what I’m saying. Hope someone does.</p>

[Cre8tive1]

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UMass Amherst is probably more widely known, but Amherst is more prestigious. My main question in this thread is if the UMass students feel any form of academic inferiority next to such a school, because they undoubtedly know that it’s right down the street and “superior” at least in some ways in the academic world. (Not bashing UMass here.)

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<p>There’s no such academic inferiority felt between UMass-Amherst and Ahmerst College. I’ve heard that sense of inferiority expressed by Smith and Mount Holyoke students; in the five college system, Smithies are the students who take register the most Five College classes at Amherst, spend the most time on Amherst campus, and they are also our number one source of transfer applications. I wouldn’t go as far as to say they fell academic inferior, but they do place Amherst on quite a pedestal (and not just b/c of the men).</p>

<p>There is a pressumption I often here at UMass (and in the Five College area) that Amherst students are made of money. At some point in time, that may have been true, however over 50% of our campus is on financial aid and almost 20% are low-income.</p>

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In truth, my friends who attend UMass Amherst still have no idea that Amherst College is a good school.

Now that one, I would say is an exception and not the norm. At nearly evernt Five College event or gathering people assume that a student from Amherst is relatively bright and intelligent (maybe not Harvard brilliance but they must have some brains).</p>

[Cre8tive1]

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Duke and UNC

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<p>Ummm…more like Duke and North Carolina Central (the lesser known HBCU)</p>

<p>That actually is a common theme in the South, where HBCU formed (are were started by the state) in proximity to the historically white, segregated institutions. A few others are:</p>

<p>UNC:Greensboro (64% white) and North Carolina A&T (95% black)
U of Alabama (85% white) and Stillman College (98% black)
Auburn University (81% white) and Alabama State (93% black)
Texas A&M (77% white) and Prairie View A&M University (95% black)</p>

[Native_NJ]

<p>Go to Loyola in New Orleans…then transfer to Tulane.</p>

[ilovebagels]

<p>I know a lot of Drexel kids and they’re cool. A lot of them are plenty smart too.</p>

[seafoodlover]

<p>New York: Columbia, NYU, Barnard, Fordham, St. Johns, Manhattan, Sarah Lawrence.</p>

<p>Isnt this a GREAT country where we have so many choices?</p>