<p>I don’t know if you can really say that there are more intelligent kids at USC than at UCLA or Berkeley. The average SAT might be lower, but both Cal and LA are bigger schools. So there’re probably more 1500+ at Cal and LA than there are at USC. Also, Cal and La are state schools. Of course the acceptance rates are going to be higher. They’re obligated to take in X amount of state kids.</p>
<p>I have to agree with Bourne, you guys have got to stop being “mean,” even if Bezcraze does **** you off to no end with his antics and pulled-out-of-black-hole statistics.</p>
<p>Our family had a unique experience last year that does a good job of answering this question. We attented the NCAA Div 1 Lacrosse Championship in Baltimore where 4 colleges gather for semi’s and finals filling Ravens Stadium. Each school has a section of the stadium with mixed sections inbetween. Last years schools (2007) were Delaware, Hopkins, Duke, Cornell. We sat in a mixed area between Duke and Hopkins sections. The difference in the students and Alumni was very noticiable. </p>
<p>The Delaware folks seemed a bit out of place, all wearing the same yellow t-shirt clustered in one section with no-one in the mixed area. Very ordinary, salt of the earth folks.</p>
<p>The Hopkins folks seemed very laid back, and suprisingly quiet and reserved for being the hometown crowd.The student sections were not very loud or wild and the mixed sections were a mix of older lacrosse fans and Alums of all ages. From what I saw, I would catagorise the Hopkins folk as nice but dull.</p>
<p>The Cornell crowd was having the most fun. They either wore t-shirts with the number of a a “lost” player ( died in a game the previous year), or a variety of old lacrosse t-shirts spanning 30 years . They had the biggest hospitality tent and didn’t seem to care who came in for free drinks or pennants to wave. They cheered the loudest, had the best band, and dominated the mixed sections with sheer numbers. A great mix of students and alumni who came from long distances to be there.</p>
<p>The Duke crowd consisted of a fratboys in blue paint, Girls with oversize designer sunclasses and cell phones that they chatted on during the game, and alums who all wore polo shirts with little Duke logos as if they were too high class to wear a t-shirt. Whenever they were losing they would shout at the ref that they would have him fired. When things were going badly they seemed to fight among themselves. When an Holder Hopkins alum in a wheel chair asked some Duke folk to sit down as they were blocking his diagonal view of the goal, they got the whole Duke section to stand up so they could “teach him a lesson”. When they lost in the championship they stomped out early with sour faces cursing.</p>
<p>In constrast,Cornell lost to Duke in the semifinals, and all the Cornell folk stayed untill the end and then the Team went around the field saluting each section in turn as the Cornell crowd cheered wildly, almost as if they had won.</p>
<p>So for my money Duke has the meanest Students</p>
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<p>You’re right. I apologize. Just a moment of frustration that had built up over numerous posts. Again - I’m sorry. That was very inappropriate.</p>
<p>Another school that has a ton of mean and elitist students: BOSTON COLLEGE.</p>
<p>That’s right, that Jesuit school in the northeast that’s a safety school for Notre Dame and Georgetown rejects. </p>
<p>Seriously though, Boston College is a fine institution. I repeat, Boston College is a fine institution. But Boston College students are a mirror image of University of Southern California students (not so much the looks, but the attitude). BC students have to be some of the snobbiest students in the United States. They have some nerve to chant “safety school” to my Top 50 university – even though Boston College is ranked like 5 to 10 spots higher than my school. C’mon, it’s pathetic – is 5 to 10 spots really a BIG difference? Is a Top 40 university considered that much more prestigious than a Top 50 university? (Okay, some elitists will argue yes, but let’s be real.) </p>
<p>Boston College students so desperately want to be accepted by the elite universities. They’re probably the only students out there who are actually PROUD of being labeled “Harvard rejects.” BC students like to brag about being rejected by Harvard because it shows that BC students are very ambitious and apply to Harvard in high numbers. Of course, my braindead classmate who smokes weed can also apply to Harvard…</p>
<p>BC students are similar to USC students in that they feel the need to knock down and degrade lower ranked universities in order to make themselves feel like they attend an “elite” university. It’s so pathetic to watch Boston College students make fun of schools ranked five to ten spots lower than them. They actually think that a school ranked in the mid to low 30s is prestigious and that a school ranked in the 40s is a TTT. </p>
<p>Sorry, but can’t stand Boston College students. Next to USC, they’re probably the most elitist bunch – and unlike Ivy League students, Boston College students don’t have the right to claim that they’re elite and that a school ranked below Top 40 is a TTT.</p>
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<p>Duke University definitely has a reputation for having a ton of [language deleted] students and alumni. That reputation has been cemented in part due to the “Cameron Crazies.”</p>
<p>I think that in terms of which truly elite university produces the most elitist jerks, Duke definitely has to be up there. (USC and BC students are definitely up there to, but they are more pseudo-elite/quasi-elite than anything else.)</p>
<p>I would have to agree with Duke. They are only ones who really exhibit the type of dislike and snobbish elitism that ticks me off.</p>
<p>Brown and Cornell have complexes which force them to make others think they ought to be higher due to their status as an ivy. They have an urge to reinforce and prove themselves in the ivy circle.</p>
<p>BC says Safety School?</p>
<p>THAT IS MESSED UP! BC kids are all preppy and just jock like. I’m so sorry to hear that.</p>
<p>Majority of Berkley and UCLA students have a worst kind of inferior complex toward Standford, because they were handidly rejected by Stanford.
Among Pac 10 schools, USC is now the second best elite university after Stanford. People who went to college in 70 or 80’s do not know how USC has become a premier university. USC has more Afro-American students than Berkley or UCLA, but their average SAT scores are well above than Berkley or UCLA</p>
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<p>I generally hate the chant “safety school” and I actually almost punched a BC student for chanting that. Seriously, I could’ve been arrested for assault right there…</p>
<p>Yeah, Boston College students have to be crazy delusional about themselves and they really think they are super elite (many BC fans are delusional to the point that they think they are Ivy League material). BC as an institution is decent and they have good sports teams, but I seriously think that they’ve been hypnotized to believe that they are an elite university and that schools ranked a few spots below them are total garbage…</p>
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<p>I respect USC as an institution (really, I do), but U$C students seriously have some delusional God complex. They actually think that U$C is closely behind Stanford in terms of elite status???</p>
<p>I’d like to have some of the marijuana USC students are using…</p>
<p>Wow. I have just lost so much respect for my BC friends. I actually live in Cambridge and BC is just across the river away from me.</p>
<p>That is just horrible. Truly disgusting.</p>
<p>^^ I find it funny that some people find USC to be better than (or even comparable to) Berkeley…</p>
<p>It’s hard to take cykay serious when he/she can’t even spell Berkeley right and makes rash generalizations like “majority of” and “are well above.”</p>
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<p>Wait, is this at sporting events?</p>
<p>This is hilariously and perversely skewered logic: a LOT of people use Boston College as a safety school.</p>
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<p>HAHAHA. I was the one who maintained that within top 20-25 schools and outside of few top schools, the quality of education one receives is pretty similar, although small differences are there due to different programs, departments, stengths of each university. On the other hand, you were that dude who claimed that Emory was the school for a bunch of Ivy rejects and insisted that a Cornell grad was a “■■■■■■” for his affiliation with this university…Regarding WashU and Hopkins, that’s fine. I actually believe that schools like UVA, UCB, UMich, Gtown, JHU, WashU, Duke, Brown, Cornell, Northwestern, etc, are pretty similar in quality, although the concept of ‘quality’ may differ among different folks.</p>
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<p>georgetown and duke. both seem to be arrogant, sometimes rich-kid schools that daddy made a big donation to, and also competitive. certainly this doesn’t apply to everyone there, nor at any school.</p>
<p>and ot respond to bescraze on the last page, cornell is wayyyy better than washU will ever be.</p>
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<p>For the record I called him a ■■■■■■ for the way he was acting, not the college he attended. Knowing he went to Cornell was just a plus. (I would put a smiley face here If I knew how)</p>
<p>You have very colorful opinions.</p>
<p>Most underrated schools on this board would be schools like Wake and Case Western? Maybe even Lehigh to an extent.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: this is my opinion from my personal experiences at this school. I am not bashing the school or saying anything bad about the school its self in fact i think the school is really nice and the teachers there really care about there students and with the small class size it is easy to get more time with the teacher if needed and teachers know your name which is nice because it makes you a little more personal with the teachers. </p>
<p>However, the college life i did not like.<br>
i would i have to say it would be suny fredonia the students there are so closed minded and superficial its disgusting when i went here it felt like a continuation of high school whether than college. If you are not “the ideal size 3/4 attractive female or the school jock” you will not get many interests from with that opposites sex in a sense. Which is sad because college is about meaning new people. I did not enjoy my time for the most part which is sad. </p>
<p>But again i repeat this is my experiences during my time at suny fredonia hopefully when you get to that school your experiences will be different. (btw l left a year ago)</p>
<p>Good Luck!</p>