@alh That’s the distinction I’ve always heard too
My family never raised swine, so I don’t know how you refer to male, female, castrated, etc.
@alh: “cattywonker”
I’d never heard of that word or any variation of it until I met my husband. He uses cattywompus.
He also uses ‘squelch’ where I would say squeeze or ''squoosh".
Today I heard “put the pedal to the metal”. My friend wanted her H to drive faster.
I’m not in the ag industry, but my understanding is that common usage among Midwestern farmers is that “pig” is the generic name for any member of any suid species including domesticated pigs and wild boars. “Boar” is ambiguous, referring either to an uncastrated adult male pig, or to a wild species of suid native to Eurasia and Africa (“wild boar”), or to a feral pig in the Americas (also known as a “wild boar” but descended from domesticated pigs, unlike Eurasian wild boars). “Hog” is also ambiguous. It sometimes refers to all pigs; sometimes to adult domestic pigs reaching a certain size and raised for meat; and sometimes to castrated adult male pigs raised for meat (thus distinct from uncastrated boars kept as breeding stock).
A “suckling pig” is a young piglet that hasn’t yet been weaned. A “shoat” is a young pig that has just been weaned. A “feeder pig” is a young weaned pig that hasn’t yet reached maturity, sold at about 40 to 50 pounds to a finishing operation. A “finished hog” is an adult pig grown out and fattened to market weight. “Sow” may refer to any adult female pig, but it more often is used to refer to an adult female kept as breeding stock.
@mom60, that’s a good one and it reminds me of another way to express the same sentiment:
Step on it!
Depends on who you’re talking to, but:
“hog” is typically a stand-in for large and “boar” that it’s a male. Not that nipples on a male suckling pig serve any purpose but… they never amount to anything other than utterly useless when it’s all grown-up.
Speaking of swine, here’s one with a serious message:
‘Pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered’, which many an investor has learned too late.
catahoula: I am surely enjoying your posts here.
Glad to hear it and I can honestly say I appreciate yours.
This thread isn’t helping my struggle against going completely feral southerner, though. Reverting to roots, rather.
I’m finding I know a whole lot of sayins not fit to print.
My ambition is to end up an ancient feral southerner, rocking on my porch, wearing an apron, sipping a bourbon. Maybe a rifle is propped up somewhere close. There is also a fly swatter.
adding: I guess I’ve pretty well realized that ambition. I don’t feel absolutely ancient quite yet.
A female pig is a gilt until she gives birth, then she’s a sow. Hog and pig are interchangeable. Pigs are smart. The saying is if a cow steps on you, it was an accident. If a pig runs you over, he/she meant to do so.
We also have directions here that are “catty-corner”.
I am really enjoying this thread. Still pondering the omission of “to be”. I attended 4 different school systems in the far south, south, central, and northern parts of this state. Had some real old-school, diagram the sentence, correct grammar teachers, and I never recall us being corrected for this. Interesting.
I can’t remember if this has been listed but, I just used the phrase-
“I’m going to be a basket case when we drop off my one & only DS at school next week.”
Made me think about that saying- Defined as: One that is in a completely hopeless or useless condition
Interesting history: “Originally World War I military slang, soldier who has lost all four limbs.” (online dictionary)
5 to 10 gallons of diesel fuel, or it’s equivalent in natural gas, run through a crematorium oven would do a wet mule, PG. Maybe $20 and rental of the facility.
But the saying refers to someone who has enough folding money they could incinerate a wet (not freeze-dried) mule in a bonfire built with it. Might not take as many dollar bills as some fortunate few have regularly gotten for… oh, a 30 minute speech for instance, but…
‘Enough money to burn a wet mule’
I was real tickled to learn the origin of that one…
There is a series of ridge and swale terrain parallel to water in a Wisconsin state forest bordering Lake Michigan- all of the land is far above lake level- the feature was caused by glaciers. Learned this from a sign posted there.
I hear New Yorkers say “on line” while the rest of us stand in line.
We ate chocolate jimmies on our ice cream in Wisconsin as kids. Sprinkles to me were multicolored then.
In Wisconsin “up north” generally meant a rural, vacation setting (usually woods as the rest of the land would have been farms). When going to a city it would be named specifically. In much of Wisconsin you are actually going south to be in the major Canadian cities (likewise for other northern tier states much of the eastern Canadian population lives south of them). We forget about the curvature of the earth when we look at flat maps, it is surprising how most of the northeast is further south than we think.
kissin’ cuzzins
"of swine, here’s one with a serious message:
‘Pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered’, which many an investor has learned too late."
We routinely say “pigs get slaughtered” in the investing sense. It must be a cut-down version of your statement.
“But the saying refers to someone who has enough folding money they could incinerate a wet (not freeze-dried) mule in a bonfire built with it. Might not take as many dollar bills as some fortunate few have regularly gotten for… oh, a 30 minute speech for instance, but…”
We would say “has more money than God” to refer to someone with a lot of money. I don’t understand your last comment - I’m a capitalist, so I think anyone who can command $ for a speech should do so?? What am I missing - government intervention limiting what speakers can charge? Odd.
I’ve only heard that one… “more money than God”… from an old Cajun by the name of Thibodeaux.
No, there’s no hidden significance to what I used as an example of a honest-to-God, spilling down the sides, mound of cash. But, $200,000 worth of crumpled up ones would BBQ any number of mules so it’s overkill, as I noted.
And like you, I’m a big believer in capitalism. Heck, if I had the kind of walking around money that would get me in the door to one of those high-dollar motivational talks, the kind that teaches “you, too, how to make it big” explaining your method of wealth-building to investment bankers and the like, I’d sign up today. No reproach, here.
Maybe I stepped into an ongoing discussion you’ve had with someone else?
I’ve only heard a version of “more money than God” from a French citizen. I believe the exact phrasing was, “more money than [something which sounded like] Cressius.”
When I had not understood “Cressius,” she further extended the idiom to “like God/ the king”.