Columbia Student Behavior --- Disgraceful

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<p>No i do get the pt, we can preven a tunne being dug under our border. It is really not as difficult. The fact is that certain people dont want the neccessary steps to be taken</p>

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<p>“It it possible that the Palestinians haven’t any tunnels under the Isreali fences because they don’t have any Mexicans they can hire to do the digging?”</p>

<p>Is it possible there isn’t a desirable place to dig to? ;)</p>

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<p>okay golani…whatever. We didn’t prevent THIS tunnel, nor could the feds find it for a year after being tipped that it existed…despite using ‘classified’ military equipment to search for it. But hey, maybe you know something I don’t.</p>

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<p>Considering that the illegals are paid a pittance, and are paid under the table, I’d say the corporate yahoos and lobby groups are quite content…without any fence. We need the open borders, because who else is going to do all the dirty work no American wants to do?</p>

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<p>If the fence might help stop illegal immigration, why shouldn’t we try it even if there are tunnels? </p>

<p>The main arguments seem to be that a fence won’t stop every illegal immigrant and that it’s too expensive. Perfection isn’t attainable in any policy and we spend money all the time that doesn’t always pan out. There are other Department of Homeland Security policies in addition to the fence. Here’s a link to the [DHS</a> Secure Border Initiative](<a href=“http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_0938.xml]DHS”>http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_0938.xml) which lists other things our government does to secure the border.</p>

<p>I’m willing to see if adding 700 miles of fence might help.</p>

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<p>See…I don’t really have a problem with the illegals who just come to work. They pay sales tax and keep cost of goods and services low, and are an integral cog in our economic machine. If we would relax the criteria for entry for those who want to do legitimate work, we could identify and impose income tax on these individuals as well. </p>

<p>But I have a problem with drugs being moved into our country on such a scale that 18-wheelers can be filled day and night at warehouses on American soil for shipment to all parts of our country. And I have an issue with terrorists using our southern border to gain entry to our country for the purpose of murder and mayhem. </p>

<p>A fence might deter the least of our worries, the illegal who just wants to mow your grass; but will do nothing to deter our worst nightmare, drug dealers and terrorists who don’t care about your life or mine.</p>

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<p>Eh…considering that I think that the “War on Drugs” is the biggest waste on taxpayers’ dollars since Ted Stevens, the drugs don’t bother me.</p>

<p>What bothers me is how half-arsed the solutions to the “problems” are.</p>

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<p>IDMom,</p>

<p>Aren’t most drugs smuggled in at border checks points and through unrestricted crossings? I don’t know much about this but I doubt most drugs come in via tunnels, except possibly in California. I’m interested in learning more on this so any information you have is appreciated.</p>

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<p>Honestly DRJ4 I don’t know. </p>

<p>Logically, it would seem that tunnel systems like the San Diego line, along with air and sea are probably the most common methods for moving mass quantities into the States. I would think far more drugs comes in this way than stuffed in the wheel wells of cars or trucks crossing at border checkpoints. Not to say border checkpoints aren’t a problem too. Bribery is rampant and the checkpoints aren’t perfect. Look at the tragedy in Victoria (where my mom lives). In this case we are talking human trafficking. I doubt the trafficker tried to move those people en masse through a Matamoros or Reynosa checkpoint…likely they crossed individually and were gathered together in Brownsville for the trip north. But they did manage to get through the King Ranch checkpoints before they were abandoned to die in that trailer.</p>

<p>The San Diego tunnel is still being assessed months after discovery. Last I heard, they still did not know how long the tunnel had been in existence or how much contraband was moved through that tunnel. It’s very likely human trafficking occurred in addition to drug trafficking…and the damage is all a function of time.</p>

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<p>October 7, 2006 – Mayor Bloomberg took the unusual step yesterday of criticizing the president of Columbia University for not doing enough to foster free speech on the Ivy League campus.</p>

<p>His harshly worded assessment of the leadership of Lee Bollinger stemmed from recent campus upheaval surrounding the invitations of controversial speakers from both sides of the political spectrum.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/101106dntexdumptruck.1e64692.html[/url]”>http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/101106dntexdumptruck.1e64692.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>**Almost a ton of marijuana found hidden in dump truck **</p>

<p>05:23 PM CDT on Tuesday, October 10, 2006</p>

<p>Associated Press</p>

<p>LOS BARRERAS, Texas – Border agents found almost a ton of marijuana in a dump truck behind a house near the Rio Grande, U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Tuesday. </p>

<p>The marijuana was found and seized Monday, after smugglers apparently realized they had been spotted and floated a different load marijuana on rafts to the Mexican side of the Rio Grande. </p>

<p>The agents followed footprints to a house and tracked a strong odor of marijuana to the dump truck. </p>

<p>The truck contained 1,800 pounds of marijuana valued at $1.5 million. </p>

<p>A man standing next to the truck was interviewed and turned over to the Drug Enforcement Agency for questioning. </p>

<p>Los Barreras is in Starr County near Roma, about 35 miles west of McAllen.</p>

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<p>Another problem that fencing won’t solve…</p>

<p><a href=“http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BORDER_CORRUPTION_CASES?SITE=OKPON&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[/url]”>http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BORDER_CORRUPTION_CASES?SITE=OKPON&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110009078[/url]”>http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110009078&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I’ll depart with this story of elephants and a mariachi band:

<a href=“http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/ts_more.php?id=73201_0_10_0_M[/url]”>http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/ts_more.php?id=73201_0_10_0_M&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Adios, amigos.</p>

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<p>RE: sounds of silencing article…VERY INTERESTING and reflected my thoughts exactly! Thanks for posting that link.</p>

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<p>DRJ, where are you going???</p>

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<p>Check your PM DRJ!</p>

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<p>DRJ, please do not leave! :0</p>

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<p>why are you talking about drugs and mexicans… this was about the failures at Columbia … lets stick to that</p>

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<p>For some college protesters, the aura of unrest obscures what’s actually being protested.</p>

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<p>"THE EVENTS at Columbia University on Oct. 4, in which about a dozen students stormed a stage where the founder of an anti-illegal immigration group was speaking, didn’t exactly resemble those of April 1968. There were no arrests, no soundtrack by the Grateful Dead, no occupation of the president’s office. But considering that most young people are considered to be politically apathetic, you have to credit the Chicano Caucus and the International Socialist Organization for trying. </p>

<p>The speaker, Jim Gilchrist of the Minuteman Project, a citizen’s border patrol group, had been invited to campus by the Columbia University College Republicans. Reports in the New York Times said students holding banners reading “No One Is Illegal” jumped on the stage and were soon joined by dozens more protesters as well as supporters of Gilchrist. Protesters later said Gilchrist was knocked backward and his glasses were broken. The student newspaper, the Columbia Spectator, reported that “one student was kicked in the head and bleeding.” "</p>

<p>Hooray, Daum gives the the Chicano Caucus and the ISO an “A” for effort. Is that because or in spite of the violence?</p>

<p>“I can’t say for certain that the students who silenced Gilchrist were preoccupied with the aura of unrest rather than the plight of illegal immigrants, but it’s possible that old-fashioned organizing took a back seat to spectacle. In the end, neither side got to speak at all.”</p>

<p>Neither side? Gilchrist’s speech (yawn) would never have received coverage on TV, YouTube and all over the internet if he had been allowed to make it. And we were prevented from hearing what he would have said that evening, though we can infer. But the protesters’ actions and message, whatever it was, certainly garnered a lot of coverage, though perhaps not the type they were hoping for. I would say one side got heard.</p>