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<p>No. that’s you.</p>

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<p>Source? How many such law firms exist? And, how many entry-level lawyers exactly do those law firms you are talking about hire each year? Can a law student from a tier two law school who struck out at NLJ250 law firm expect to land a job at such places? </p>

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<p>Ahh. Those are great examples. Except shops such as Lazard only hire people in single digits for their office for IBD. For example, Lazard office in Chicago only hires like 3 analysts for IBD each year. I know this because my buddy’s dad happens to work there.</p>

<p>Likewise, many of those selective boutique corporate law firms you are talking about, outside of NYC, hire attorneys in single digits. Here is a little factoid, you little clown: Most of entry level jobs that pay you six figures (over half of all such jobs) are in NYC. That’s right. And, most of those large firms in NYC are NLJ250 law firms. Hence, from statistics-led point of view, it makes perfect sense to see NLJ250 law firm placement and measure rough idea of employment potential.</p>

<p>Shops like Snell (in Phoenix, Arizona) is a good regional boutique and pay you well, but they hire less than 5 people each year and you’d better have geographical ties to that region + connections to break in. Not to mention, firms like this don’t exist in large quantity nor do they hire large incoming class of attorneys. </p>

<p>Many times, getting NYC Biglaw is EASIER than getting those non-NYC, highly selective, elite boutique law firms that offer competitive compensation. Hence, you would be an idiot to think that you will end up with those cushy six figure jobs in question easily, even if you are out of luck with NLJ250 or biglaw.</p>

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<p>Only if those clerkships are at federal level. Regional state-court clerkships are no where as attractive of an option, nor are those jobs as selective as BigLaw or highly desirable clerkships. Not to mention, doing a clerkship at a state-level court won’t likely to lead to something better such as biglaw, etc.</p>

<p>Lastly, getting top clerkships is actually more difficult than getting Biglaw. Most of times, people who don’t land Biglaw won’t have options to work clerkships, except a very tiny portion of law student body who gets lucky. </p>

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<p>You are talking like those government lawyer jobs are easy to come by. You couldn’t be more misinformed.</p>

<p>Check out:</p>

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<p>[Help</a> Wanted in New Jersey: Unpaid ‘Special Assistant US Attorneys’ - News - ABA Journal](<a href=“http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/help_wanted_in_new_jersey_unpaid_special_assistant_us_attorneys]Help”>Help Wanted in New Jersey: Unpaid ‘Special Assistant US Attorneys’)</p>

<p>State government of NJ and PA, for example, are hiring lawyers for free for their DOJ or prosecutor positions. FREE. And, loads of lawyers still apply to those jobs to ‘get experience’. What does that tell you? You can rest assured that those government jobs with legit pay and benefits will score hundreds, if not thousands, of applications for like 3-4 slots. </p>

<p>Many times, getting ‘legit’ government jobs are actually harder than getting Biglaw.</p>

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<p>What you are talking about is in-house counsel lawyer jobs at IB or F500 companies. To get such jobs in question, you have to have several years of work experience at Biglaw. Those employers don’t recruit for lawyer positions straight out of law school. This is a fact.</p>

<p>Also, many of those ‘business’ jobs that many of those unemployed law grads from tier two law schools end up is sales jobs, like doing sales for insurance or selling cars.</p>

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<p>Yes, employment situation is freaking terrible outside of BigLaw, selective clerkships, and few other boutique law firms. If you can’t get one of those, you are most likely screwed. If you attend a tier two law school, heck even many of tier one law schools nowadays, you will likely to end up unemployed, solo, in document review, or end up in one of those insurance defense or personal injury lawyer shops that pay you like 40k to start.</p>