Columbia vs UChicago vs Princeton

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As for money–indeed this is a way the Ivy League geniuses would rank universities rather than academic quality

You know you’re grasping at straws when you cite a joke ranking like Princeton Review.</p>

<p>US News undergraduate</p>

<h1>1 Princeton</h1>

<h1>4 Columbia</h1>

<h1>5 Chicago</h1>

<p>[National</a> University Rankings | Top National Universities | US News Best Colleges](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities]National”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities)</p>

<p>US News graduate - all fields</p>

<h1>5 Princeton</h1>

<h1>8 Chicago / Columbia</h1>

<p>US News graduate - sciences</p>

<h1>6 Princeton</h1>

<h1>8 Columbia</h1>

<h1>10 Chicago</h1>

<p>US News graduate - humanities/social sciences</p>

<h1>4 Princeton</h1>

<h1>7 Chicago</h1>

<h1>8 Columbia</h1>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/1241939-university-michigans-academic-power-rating.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/1241939-university-michigans-academic-power-rating.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>2010 NRC rankings - core 32 fields</p>

<h1>2 Princeton</h1>

<h1>6 Columbia</h1>

<h1>8 Chicago</h1>

<p>2010 NRC rankings - programs in top 20
27 Princeton
24 Columbia
18 Chicago</p>

<p>2010 NRC rankings - programs in top 10
24 Princeton
14 Columbia
11 Chicago</p>

<p>2010 NRC rankings - programs in top 5
18 Princeton
7 Columbia
6 Chicago</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/1006939-princeton-2010-national-research-council-nrc-rankings-news-item.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/1006939-princeton-2010-national-research-council-nrc-rankings-news-item.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>1995 NRC rankings - all fields</p>

<h1>8 Columbia</h1>

<h1>14 Princeton</h1>

<h1>15 Chicago</h1>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - nonzero fields</p>

<h1>4 Princeton</h1>

<h1>7 Chicago</h1>

<h1>11 Columbia</h1>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - humanities</p>

<h1>2 Princeton</h1>

<h1>4 Columbia</h1>

<h1>8 Chicago</h1>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - biology</p>

<h1>8 Columbia</h1>

<h1>11 Chicago</h1>

<p>Princeton unranked</p>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - engineering</p>

<h1>5 Princeton</h1>

<h1>30 Columbia</h1>

<p>Chicago unranked</p>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - physical sciences</p>

<h1>4 Princeton</h1>

<h1>7 Chicago</h1>

<h1>14 Columbia</h1>

<p>1995 NRC rankings - social sciences</p>

<h1>5 Chicago</h1>

<h1>8 Princeton</h1>

<h1>10 Columbia</h1>

<p>[NRC</a> Rankings](<a href=“http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc1.html]NRC”>NRC Rankings)</p>

<p>AWRU</p>

<h1>7 Princeton</h1>

<h1>8 Columbia</h1>

<h1>9 Chicago</h1>

<p>AWRU - natural sciences and math</p>

<h1>3 Princeton</h1>

<h1>11 Columbia</h1>

<h1>15 Chicago</h1>

<p>AWRU - social sciences</p>

<h1>2 Chicago</h1>

<h1>5 Columbia</h1>

<h1>7 Princeton</h1>

<p>[Academic</a> Ranking of World Universities | ARWU | First World University Ranking | Shanghai Ranking](<a href=“http://www.shanghairanking.com/index.html]Academic”>ShanghaiRanking)</p>

<p>THE ranking</p>

<h1>5 Princeton</h1>

<h1>9 Chicago</h1>

<h1>12 Columbia</h1>

<p>THE ranking - reputation</p>

<h1>7 Princeton</h1>

<h1>14 Chicago</h1>

<h1>15 Columbia</h1>

<p>THE ranking - arts and humanities</p>

<h1>3 Chicago</h1>

<h1>4 Princeton</h1>

<p>Columbia unranked</p>

<p>THE ranking - engineering</p>

<h1>3 Princeton</h1>

<p>Chicago and Columbia unranked</p>

<p>THE ranking - life sciences</p>

<h1>8 Princeton</h1>

<h1>12 Chicago</h1>

<p>Columbia unranked</p>

<p>THE ranking - physical sciences</p>

<h1>1 Princeton</h1>

<h1>8 Chicago</h1>

<p>Columbia unranked</p>

<p>THE ranking - social sciences</p>

<h1>4 Chicago</h1>

<h1>5 Princeton</h1>

<p>Columbia unranked</p>

<p>[The</a> Times Higher Education World University Rankings 2011-2012](<a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/]The”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/)</p>

<p>Awards production</p>

<h1>4 Princeton</h1>

<h1>7 Chicago and Columbia</h1>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/798325-rhodes-marshall-truman-nsf-fulbright-scholars-private-universities.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/798325-rhodes-marshall-truman-nsf-fulbright-scholars-private-universities.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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UChicago blows aways Princeton, Harvard, Stanford, and Yale in Nobel Prizes. Those other schools are 3rd and 4th tier in Nobel prizes. UChicago and Cambridge lead the world.

Chicago “leads the world” because it includes anyone who was even remotely associated with the university, including researchers who stayed at the university for one year. Other universities like Harvard are much more conservative, and Harvard in particular would thrash Chicago if it were more liberal in its counting practices. Even Phuriku admitted this.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14111297-post4.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14111297-post4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Also, Columbia has more than either Chicago or Cambridge.</p>

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1. The richest person who attended UChicago, Larry Ellison is #3 is the U.S. in wealth–richer than any one who attended Princeton.

Yes, Larry who attended for…one term. See what I mean about the desperate counting?</p>

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2. Forbes ranks UChicago #6 in number of billionaire alums. Princeton is #10

Chicago at 13, Princeton at 9. Not bad at since all of Princeton’s will be undergraduates, but I’ll wager maybe half of Chicago’s are. </p>

<p>There is pretty much no metric in which Chicago beats Princeton in academics. You can’t even really argue rigor anymore. Princeton has implemented capped grades and grade deflation, while grade inflation at Chicago continues to rise. Additionally, unlike Chicago, Princeton requires an intense senior thesis of all students.</p>