Companies Demanding you get healthy: Where will this lead to?

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<p>Because thats how insurance works- it takes a statistically unlikely event and assigns a known, manageable cost to it. </p>

<p>How much would fire insurance be if everyone’s house was going to burn down once a year? Well your premium is pretty much going to be the cost of rebuilding a house, plus overhead. </p>

<p>It will be interesting to see what happens with the emerging Pet Insurance market. I’d bet it drives vet costs sky high.</p>

<p>The red line on freedom is between things you do that hurt others and things you do that only hurt yourself. The more we are beholden to other people, the less freedom we have. So if all of us are paying for all of our health insurance premiums, there are going to be restrictions. If you pay for your own healthcare, out of pocket, then no one has the right to tell you what to do so long as you are only hurting yourself. Be as fat as you want, ride a motorcycle without a helmet, etc. etc. </p>

<p>It’s the old golden rule. He who pays the gold makes the rules.</p>

<p>Bay, that is right. Individual freedoms conflict with others individual freedoms. Individual freedoms conflict with society’s rights. </p>

<p>The above is a major argument on CC and in society. Where do we draw the lines? How much does an individual have to pay for his rights?</p>

<p>I thought it was whoever owns the gold makes the rules.</p>

<p>No, it’s whoever can <em>take</em> the gold makes the rules. :)</p>

<p>Lol…</p>

<p>“Regarding privacy concerns, I think that having all medical records online, linked, with your Social Security number on them, will be the death of any sort of medical privacy.”</p>

<p>What do you think they are going to do with the information? Round up all unhealthy people and put them in concentration camps? Death panels? </p>

<p>“Government bureaucrats will monitor, hackers will hack. There will be no way to be off the grid.” </p>

<p>Our SS#'s are already out there. The IRS has them, DMV’s, credit card companies, FAFSA.org., etc., etc., etc.</p>

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<p>In NH, you don’t have to provide a social security number to get a drivers license. Someone sued the state over using the social security number as an identification number. You know, because the social security card says Not For Identification (at least the older ones do). So the state offers you the choice of using your social security number or a generated identification number.</p>

<p>My kids’ colleges use generated ID numbers.</p>

<p>I think that social security numbers shouldn’t be used for identification by non-Federal government organizations.</p>

<p>Emilybee,
How about sharing with us, your full name, address, cell phone number and bra size? :). If you won’t, why not? We promise not to judge!</p>

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<p>The answer should always be 34C. Even if it is a lie.</p>

<p>^ lol…that’s why I love CC</p>

<p>BC, ok - so a few agencies don’t require ss#'s. And my son’s college doesn’t use it as his ID, but is it asked for on the common app? Do kids put it on the SAT/ACT? </p>

<p>Do you not have any credit cards because it’s a non gov’t agency? </p>

<p>Bay, I have nothing to hide but I’m sure if I put my personal info on here it would be removed by the mods and I’d probably get banned, but I don’t think they’d care if I post my bra size. I’m a 34 A.</p>

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<p>I think that colleges need the SS # for tax purposes and perhaps some of the other Federal agencies but they don’t use it for identification.</p>

<p>The SAT/ACT has you create an ID, doesn’t it? Do they use SS for ID or do they just ask for it? Personally, I don’t think that it should be used but it would take a bunch of lawsuits to get organizations to stop using it for identification.</p>

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<p>Credit cards having my information isn’t a problem for me that negates the convenience of them enough.</p>

<p>Dstark-Heck no- the providers dont make the profits, the insurers do!</p>

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<p>Emilybee
I think you know my question wasn’t serious, but your willingness to disclose personal information on a public message board is unusual. To some (like me) it borders on exhibitionist. But it does explain why you do not understand people’s privacy concerns regarding medical records on the Internet.</p>

<p>“I think that colleges need the SS # for tax purposes and perhaps some of the other Federal agencies but they don’t use it for identification.”</p>

<p>But it is in a computer system somewhere, linked to the student in you’ve filled out the FAFSA and/or CSS, so still vulnerable to hacking, along with both parents SS#, no? </p>

<p>I definitely understand people’s reluctance to have SS# and other identifying information because of the information being hacked but aside from that - what do people think the government is going to do with your personal health information that people are so scared of them having it? I’m asking in all seriousness.</p>

<p>"Emilybee,</p>

<p>I think you know my question wasn’t serious, but your willingness to disclose personal information on a public message board is unusual. To some (like me) it borders on exhibitionist. But it does explain why you do not understand people’s privacy concerns regarding medical records on the Internet."</p>

<p>I just don’t believe our government is out to get me, or you, or anyone else.</p>

<p>Jym626, I am not quite sure where the provider - insurance comment is coming from.</p>

<p>I do like that exercise dementia relationship link. Thanks.</p>

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It doesn’t matter what their intentions are. Governmental employees are not some superclass of enlightened beings who are wise and fair and gracious. They are just people, maybe your neighbors or your cousin’s sister-in-law, but they should have very limited access to personal information. And sometimes governmental workers are out to get any number of people. There have been plenty of cases of information inappropriately viewed. I happen to think that the taxpayer should be the one in control of her personal information, not to be patted on the head and told “there, there don’t worry your little head because the government knows what’s best for you.” In the corrupt, incompetent state of New York, why would anyone trust “the government?”</p>

<p>But in this case, aren’t we talking about a web-based information company, rather than governmental employees?</p>

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<p>Yes. But in a database system, you can add additional protection and auditing to non primary key fields.</p>