<p>At the Ivies and Stanford MIT Duke Chicago etc. the middle 50% of students is as competetive as the most competetive students at almost every school. The bottom 25% is probably stronger at these 10-15 schools than the best students at almost every state school. I mean, going to a state school is fine…but the students at top schools on average are MUCH smarter and more accomplished than those at mid level state schools. On average - keep that in mind.</p>