Conviction and admissions

OP: Beware of those claiming to be attorneys who insist that this or that rule is the law. This is not how lawyers are trained to think & analyze situations. This is how paralegals and other non-lawyers often approach “the law”.

My point in sharing this caution is to let you know that there is no clear-cut answer to your situation. It depends upon the facts & circumstances of your situation then and now.

No well educated lawyer would ever accuse another of “misstating the law” unless that lawyer were engaged in a paralegal level of law practice involving minor traffic offenses and simple misdemeanors. (Even in these matters there are exceptions depending upon the facts & circumstances of the case.)

If simply reading a law or rule were sufficient to determine the outcome of a legal matter, there would be no need for lawyers or for law schools–just hire clerks to state the law & impose the fine or punishment. LOL

And keep in mind that every law school will ask C&F questions on its application.

And regarding expenses-keep in mind that non-residents pay more for tuition-in UND’s case, tuition is double. And do you want to live and practice in ND?
There will also be living expenses, and three years out of your life.
It’s a big investment of time and money-so you’d be well-advised to see a C&F attorney before applying to get an opinion on your situation.
Free advice on the internet is great, but no match for actual expert advice.

LOL And just where would one get that “actual expert advice”? LOL

Must have been a TV show which revealed the mystery of how to tell a paralegal from a lawyer. Otherwise how would #20 know, since #20 isn’t a lawyer?
OP: Beware of advice regarding criminal convictions from individuals who are not attorneys. Particularly priceless:
“Everyone understands that young love often involves a lot of unrestrained emotion.”
That’s 1950s soap opera advice. See a C&F attorney to get reliable guidance.

Never assume.

Sorry @oldlaw, I am just having a bit of fun this morning. I find your posts amusing.

Your idea of “fun” is…interesting. And I find your posts risible. Why you insist on posting on topics on which you have zero experience is puzzling, but it’s the internet. Although your post on how you know, just know, a paralegal v a lawyer was entertaining; did you find that on the internet?

And nobody’s assuming anything; you have been diligent in not revealing your experience, because you have none.

And to answer your question in #22-C&F issues come up all the time with bar admissions, and there are attorneys who specialize in representing bar applicants in these C&f matters. So that’s the expert OP ought to be consulting-a C&F attorney is his jurisdiction. While that may be “LOL” to you, C&F is serious business, and can keep an applicant out of law school, or being admitted to the bar.

@oldlaw I actually believe that you are a lawyer. My remarks regarding paralegals are not intended to distinguish between who may or may not be a paralegal, but who may think as a paralegal regardless of whether or not that person is a lawyer.

As you should know after decades in the legal field, there are different levels of lawyers & different types of legal practices.

P.S. Tell me again how to “state the law” as I do not want to “misstate the law”. LOL

If a lawyer lives in a world of traffic offenses & simple misdemeanors, that is a very different world from the practice of law in other areas.

And it’s a different world from someone who isn’t a lawyer at all. And who told you to “state the law”? Must have been another poster. LOL

@oldlaw See your post #11 above.

Enough fun for today.

P.S. It is against the CC TOS to post under two different usernames.

Well, when you’re wrong-and you were wrong.
But this romance novel advice you gave OP is priceless:
“Everyone understands that young love often involves a lot of unrestrained emotion.”
Every DV prosecutor or PD ought to use it as their lodestar, as it will surely carry a lot of weight with the court.

@oldlaw I am actually beginning to like you.

I promise that I will stop teasing.

OP: suggest you look to a consultant for admissions for crafting the Ooops part of your app. Mike Spivey (search for his company) might give you a 5 minute free read on chances at top schools (if you have the grades and test scores), middle schools, and the bottom tier (which I would recommend against).

31; what took you so long? I'm a very likable person.