Cooper Union for Graphic Design

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>whaat? 12 now? it have been 10 in these sort. </p>

<ol>
<li>list extra art classes </li>
<li>should artist be big mouthed or not</li>
<li>work job </li>
<li>what cooper means to you</li>
<li>goal future</li>
<li>books artists films </li>
<li>triviality</li>
<li>idea theory</li>
<li>anything else questions</li>
<li>if ED, transfer, certificate, why</li>
</ol>

<p>what’s new???
no, better not tell RDers yet in case Peter is watching, OK?
Good luck!
if you can bring it in person, why not work to the end and count your blessings (that kid in Finland…)but DO NOT miss train subway office hours whatnot.
really, brave souls EDers lost Holiday winter vacation job wages - so help 'em Peter
and
yes Ms.Day said at the openhouse EVERY tests are looked at by at least three profs. same time or separate batch, who knows. wanna be a fly on the wall.</p>

[Paintster]

<p>i’ll let rd get it before i spill the beans
they’re not difficult to answer, if anything I like that they are there, they give me more of a chance to talk about things i mightn’t have talked about otherwise</p>

<p>yeah planning to…but i live in philly, which means missing a day of school just to bring it up, and I am worried about the snow storm that’s supposed to happen on friday</p>

<p>i did ed mainly for the time during winter break, but lost a lot of babysitting $</p>

<p>i’m soooo nervous, i’ve been practicing my cooper-union-rejection face in the mirror</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>10,700! drama! drama!!
not much for out-town folks but yet but yet
The Village Voice is this
<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Village_Voice[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Village_Voice&lt;/a&gt;
the office is on Cooper square, same side as Cooper’s administration building.
drama! is this
<a href=“http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/01/wayne_barrett_t_2.php[/url]”>http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/01/wayne_barrett_t_2.php&lt;/a&gt;
I remember when Voice was still THE Voice.
we had to pay for them, 50 cents? a dollar? most of the stuff I did not get nor care back then ( like, schools and politics LOL)
but it taught me many things otherwise I would not know - jobs, apartments, arts, film forum, cheap eats.
my favorite column was long gone “Shelter” which shown photos of dwellings of different NYer and interviewed residents, across all neighborhood and social class, including reindeers in the Bronx Zoo during holiday.
after main stream-ing and adding tons of sex ad so to be free paper (? this bit is my guess) and firing bunch of old timers, the paper gotten thinner and even smaller.
now I pick them up from red box on the streets or entrance of art supply stores only when I want to read certain reviews, which often no longer helpful, for they axed art section big time and film reviews are snide and nit-picky, I mean that’s exactly I liked them until I myself became one. </p>

<p>^Wayne Barrett is like, face of the Voice to many readers and I heard him often when he’d come to WNYC radio show as a guest commentator.
I heard his name wrong (as always) and same exact name (as the one I heard wrong) guy I used to work for, and that’s of course how I remembered him.
anyway he is fired and it shocked readers, even himself.
not only that, another long-time reporter quitted as protest - thou this is not confirmed, the paper nor Tom Robbins did not say that.
I was listening the radio yesterday and sure enuff, Wayne was invited to speak. He said in the show as he wrote in the farewell article, when he was asked to do frequent blog, he did not want to write if he has nothing new to tell readers.
" even writing is snappy, if taken from somewhere just retelling stories, it is not right " or something like that.
gawk, so, what I have been doing here is wrong. I am no journalist but better remember that, tell truth, write what earned from one’s own legwork.</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>shameless self bumping!
10,800 view and timely e-newsletter.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=43955[/url]”>http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=43955&lt;/a&gt;
Eli Broad means business!! if he built it they will come!!
open in two years. he got Basquiat, load of Cindy, Koons and big on permanent exhibition that cost less to mount, fine fine.
let’s hope he won’t pi*s off yet another star architect like he did to Gerhy, Piano.
pay’em up! spend it! can’t take it with you! your clock is ticking! you go, kingpin!!</p>

<p>… I don’t think Wayne Barrett of ex Voice won’t approve this post^ whatever.</p>

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<p>PS
I was re reading to edit double denial (?)
don’t think Wayne won’t approve = Wayne would approve thus should have been I think Wayne won’t approve, or I don’t think Wayne would approve = Wayne would not approve, which I meant.
and Frank Gehry name jambled “h” and “r” .
then noticed something familiar in the architect’s comment
“Our goal for the museum is to hold its ground next to Gehry’s much larger and very exuberant Walt Disney Concert Hall through contrast,” Diller said. “As opposed to Disney Hall’s smooth and shiny exterior that reflects light, The Broad will be porous and absorptive, channeling light into its public spaces and galleries. The veil will play a role in the urbanization of Grand Avenue by activating two-way views that connect the museum and the street.” </p>

<p>seriously!! did she say that? “porous and absorptive” ??? bet she got youngum’s!!
now what’s difference in “absorptive” and “absorbent”
redbug?</p>

<p>Capt- Are you ready kids
Kids- Aye aye captain
Capt- I can’t hear you
Kids- Aye aye captain
Capt- Ohhhhh
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea
spongebob squarepants
Absporbent and yellow and porous is he
spongebob squarepants
His nautical nonsense be something you wish
spongebob squarepants
So drop on the deck and flop like a fish
spongebob squarepants
spongebob squarepants
spongebob squarepants
spongebob squarepants
sponge bob squarepaaaants!
do do do do do do do do</p>

[loveblue]

<p>This is fun to know:
Will Cotton was the Art Director for Katy Perry’s 2010 music video, California Gurls.
Check out this web site:
[Will</a> Cotton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Cotton]Will”>Will Cotton - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>and his homepage: [Will</a> Cotton](<a href=“http://www.willcotton.com/]Will”>http://www.willcotton.com/)</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>hello 10,900 views,
it’s snowing again. one me, on Peter in the Cooper park and on Cleopatra’s needle in the Central Park
rewind to page 7 post #91 if you care</p>

<p>[Egyptian</a> Government Threatens to Take Back New York Obelisk Unless It is Restored](<a href=“http://www.artdaily.com/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=44003]Egyptian”>http://www.artdaily.com/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=44003)
so Egypt wants the obelisk back if NYC can’t take better care.
It is said hieroglyphics melted away in the acid rain.
Egyptian dude wants mayor Mike Bloomberg to stop raining snowing heat gloom of night.
What Would Mike Say?</p>

<p>^loveblue, the “cotton candy Katy” was the cover of Dec. ARTnews issue. I had to hide it reading in the subway.
In there was an article about, ahem… nude. why now, how now who now?
Will Cotton commented on why he re-learned figure painting at the Academy after Cooper BFA. I don’t have it with me, will post later.</p>

<p>RIP Wayne Barrett bears are bears, and do bears do. cut paste and re-tell all.</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p><a href=“http://artnews.com/issues/issue.asp?id=10469[/url]”>http://artnews.com/issues/issue.asp?id=10469&lt;/a&gt;
I was hoping there is a link to the article but no. it says</p>

<p>The training void (most US artschools only offering introductory life-drawing taught by abstract artists who don’t know the anatomy themselves) has led countless figurative artists to seek out remedial instruction at such institutions as the Art Students League of Denver, the PAFA, where academic dean Peter Drake reports a record enrollment of 120 grad students, even during the recession “We are turning people away” he says.
Will Cotton is one such artist. After his undergraduate training at Cooper Union, he studied life drawing at the New York Academy, in 1987 and 88, and now teaches there as a senior critic. though his high-camp compositions are all about fantasy, he wants his subjects to feel as “alive and believable” as possible." I have no ability to work from my imagination." Cotton says, 'Whatever I’m painting has to be in the studio. what that means to me is models posing, props, and maquettes"</p>

<p>what I thought

1. Lucky guy!! naked girl looking at you in cloud of cotton candy in front of his eyes, hours and hours to the end!
2. how did he get in Cooper with “no ability to work from imagination” what was hometest like back in 80s?
3. kinda famous and presented by name galleries but still need steady paycheck and/or health insurance that come with tenure? or need stimuation, credential, what?
4. So PAFA did not have to turn down grad kids in the past? how about that!! imagine Yale grad saying the same thing??</p>

<p>note
The new York Academy is not to be confused with the National Academy or the Studio school.
I know folks are better at this than me, just in case.
<a href=“http://www.nyaa.edu/nyaa/index.html[/url]”>http://www.nyaa.edu/nyaa/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>PS
same Dec. issue very end “critic’s pick” is Gendron Jensen = the bone guy
redbug, this might interests your D
<a href=“http://www.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=gendron+jensen&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi[/url]”>http://www.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=gendron+jensen&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&lt;/a&gt;
thou your guest bathtub and backyard seems fit more of land of Carl Hiaasen.</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>happy 11,000 views!
RD confirmation letter should be arriving for locals, in case another Finland kid lurking, this is what it says. (omitted thank you for application blah blah and annual safety report posting blah blah)</p>

<p>-The admissions decision is based upon several parts: home test, portfolio, questionnaire, educational summary, high school transcript, and SAT 1 or ACT scores.
No application will be considered without -these parts- (underlined)</p>

<p>In order to be certain that your credentials will be reviewed in a timely fashion:</p>

<p>the art home test and the questionnaire will be mailed to you in late January 2011. If you do not receive these materials by February 11, 2011, please contact the Office of Admissions. You must complete and return the art home test, questionnaire and summary; </p>

<p>Please ensure that your high school sends your official transcript to the Office of Admissions before February 1, 2011;</p>

<p>Please arrange for your SAT 1 or ACT scores to be submitted to The Cooper Union before March 1, 2011. If you have not done so already, you must register to take the test no later than February 1, 2011. For more information please visit <a href=“http://www.collegeboard.org%5B/url%5D”>www.collegeboard.org</a> and <a href=“http://www.act.org%5B/url%5D”>www.act.org</a> ;</p>

<p>Applicants whose native language is not English and who have not graduated from a secondary school in a country with English as the official medium of instruction are required to take the TOEFL exam and submit official scores to the office of Admissions no later than February1, 2011. Visit <a href=“http://www.ets.org%5B/url%5D”>www.ets.org</a> for more information.</p>

<p>We will notify applicants of the admission decision by mail during the first week of April 2011.</p>

<p>^The cover letter came with

1. transcript request sheet to give it to HS so they can send it with transcript directly to Cooper.
2. faculty evaluation (rec. letter form)</p>

<p>now we wait for few more weeks… twiddling thumbs, flexing muscles. stock up art supplies -Utrecht back to school sale up to 60% off !!</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>shameless copy-pasting info continues for 11,100 views
refer to page 19, post # 272
it was in New Museum and handful other galleries, now at MoMA.
[New</a> York’s Museum of Modern Art to Display Controversial Video by David Wojnarowicz](<a href=“http://www.artdaily.com/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=44173]New”>http://www.artdaily.com/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=44173)
the offensive video of ants crawling over Jesus on a crucifix is going to be on view at MoMA.
Big guy now backing up, the video will become officially “one of the most influential art to have emerged from New York in the 1980s” which most artists made them are either died, killed, forgotten, or became sell out. (then died, killed or forgotten or become film maker, author, preacher)
but
works go on living life of second, third comings after its creators long gone, gain value and its significance as receiving end/society changes.
could last forever, assuming MoMA would take good care of the archive- which becoming more complicated since rapid advance of technology and its limitation because of, that mad advancing. like, they have to preserve bulky hardware as well if you want to keep it in genuine original form (genuinely scratchy and muffled)
maybe those primitive video camera or VCR could be on display in the MoMA’s glass case along with the work for the “whole experience”
you go MoMA!!</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>Hello 11,200 views. since lovely switters spilled beans already at “launch” thread I’d come clean.
Edward Tufte is this
<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tufte[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tufte&lt;/a&gt;
he got own nice gallery in Chelsea that receptionist would greet you, plus, let you use bathroom
<a href=“http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/[/url]”>http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I am trying to figure out what this guy - statistician - does and how he made pile of money- to be able to afford own sculpture park in CT, rather nice gallery/museum in Chelsea, funds to excute ridiculously big and time consuming sculpture pieces.</p>

<p>last Saturday, I was showing off to lead them ( switters and her lovely H) thru contemporary conceptual Chelsea maze with ease ( switters H wanted to WALK, like, long six blocks from my job. noone out of NYC should wanting to walk) so we were walking, and he sees the sign on the gallery entrance, stops and says
" that’s Edward Tufte of blah blah of blah blah! (switters H is walking encyclopedia, so to speak) let’s check it out!! "
I could not say I never heard of the guy’s name but complied, went inside. and am I glad I did.
The gallery is on the corner of 20th and 11th Ave. there was a water bowl for the dog on the entrance. Dog friendly gallery! He is a man of the dogs.
and fish.
<a href=“Edward Tufte forum: Magritte's Smile”>http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0003RF&lt;/a&gt;
This fish - 400lbs? is it right? is called “Magritte’s smile” 12 feet or 3.7 meters made of aluminum cast. he hangs one from the tree so the sunlight shine thru leaves would reflect on the fish like it is swimming underwater.
the giant fish would be looking into his office thru window. fish outside, human inside of the glass case (fish tank) get it?
and
before I knew the title of the piece, I said to switters
" I like the fish, it’s smiling(giggle)" switters kicked my foot to shush me because the artist, Mr. Tufte was happened to be in presence giving artst’s talk.
charming charming dude. bit of whack but so cute and you can smell brain mass behind the eccentricity.
b. 1942 means what, 68!? grandpa! with flat stomach and snappy rings, no visible age spots, no hair in the ear.
raised in Beverly Hills where dad was the city engineer mom taught in USC. graduated Stanford then Yale taught at everywhere important.
wrote weird book and self published with second mortgage money.
the book become classic.
do all stuff I have no idea what they are ( you look them up)
hates PowerPoint and thinks that’s why NASA Columbia accident happened.</p>

<p>fammom, you must know what he is been up to?
how about it! now he is a math-scienc-y sculptor with museum solo shows.
he said ratio is this thing you can not be sure until actual thing is made, the thickness of the wall can not be decided by just multiplying from the scale model because it won’t look right. 10X10X10 means you are looking something one thousand fold. hard to grasp the volume in that way.
the fish was fine as tiny model but enlarged and sculpted, came out with big belly (but that’s why its cute!! if you’d ask me) he made 5 fish out of same mold. now on sale.
I forgot how much it costs, switters H must know, he wants one for his house, they got nice tree in the yard.
Thank you for the opportunity, switters pair.
because of you two, I am tiny bit smarter. (not)</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>hello 11,300 and up
Are you ready kids?
RD Hometest packet is coming next week or so
but bears gone fishing with red velvet cake in the insulated lunch box.
Will be back on Feb 1st if everything’d go as planed (…no snow, storm, volcano eruption, earthquake, wildfire, revolution)
I will see if I have any CC access while fishing in wilderness but G or anyone who is kind enuff please feel free to keep bumping, or it’s totally OK to let it go under pile, I will be back one way or another.
Thank you in advance.</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>say, 11,400 views make up post?
I am, ahem, at land of OZ, A.K.A LA!!
went to see Art Center just becaurse.
man, people who want paying job and real training should go there. no kids’ game, they are so “otona” =grownups dress otona, eat otona, act otona.
no trash, beer can, graffitti or sticker on the lockers.
the building is stream gream Bou wowwow -hous.
The coolest thing is fake peppers and lemons decorationg salad bar stand, They are in this glass cylinder and looked so real, every pieces are different, even felt real only it wasn’t. (I asked if students made them,they don’t think so) still couldn’t believe and kept feeling around, one of the latex stem came off (like, the real thing) sticked back in. the cafeteria lady insisted they are fake and made me bite one lemmon. love these people behind the scenes.
always check how those ground keepers, cleaning folks cooking folks are doing at colleges, if they are not happy, your kid won’t be happy.
so at Art Center, folks are happy and treated well, in fact caffeteria folks are given nifty canteeen eaches that they keep in back room.
I asked where can I get one, and the guy said at the store across the hall.
No they did not have it but art surppys are discounted
say
Golden acrylics 1 group list price 7.95 their price$6.36. 2group 8.65/6.92
Gamblin oil group 1 - 9.95/7.96 group 2 - 8.65/6.92
W&N gouache 1-9.20/7.36 2-11.60/9.28</p>

<p>kids
Asian heavy, very heavy. could be international, I overheared conversation in admission as such
" how do you know that you don’t belong to the class if only attended twice? We know our class than you do, your portfolio made that match, do You understand what I am saying?"
" I have works, new"
" It is too late to get faculty approval, if you don’t want to continue, you shoud withdraw for the semester"
" I go show my new works?"
" do you understand what I am saying? (gawd, how many times I got that, stil get sometimes) IT IS TOO LATE. YOUR PORTOFOLIO WAS GOOD MATCH. WE know our classes, YOU DON’T. IT IS TOO LATE NOW."</p>

<p>the beaten up Asian boy left still confused(?) I am thinking of his folks back in home somewhere that piping in 15K plus for half a year, wishing he’d done 8 blocks in min 2.5 years thus save $$$ now had to be told he couldn’t get thru.
But
works are really good, I mean they are like pro when they come in, get pro-er when go out. no handholding in sight ( wrong, saw few Asian couple holding hand coming going neat bauhous hallways.
Classrooms are fishbowls, spy all you want. 6-16 sh kids only, usually one sleeping and left behind.
In one room, three parted arty dessert tray was on this glass table. chocolate covered rasin or cranberry was in it, each compartment, yogult, dark, milk. handsome profs sits aroung and discussing something important that Art Center people would discuss. I was hungry but did not eat at the cafeteria even they offered ozro and greek olives at the salada bar (dood sign) pecan crusted chicken ( very good sign) because
I have plan for serious noodle eating at LA Chinatown after this.
so
I was sort of stairing at the tray and one of the prof looked up (telepathy!! mind power) obiousery wondered what I was looking at ( those erfect proportion of brown, ivory, dark brown dots on the ecru/ rust colored sharp tray…
awww art is everywhere in Art Center. Their snack are in clear acetate tied with real raffia strings.
I wanted to go there is I knew better and had money… THAT’s illustration,that is commercial, that is boring but emproy-able skill.
but then I’d get kicked out in first semester for sure.</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>PS
rafia tied baked goods are nice but there are lotta vending machines for the school is open 24/7
gold fish $1 Pepperridge Milano $ 1.25 cute animal crackers I have never seen, must be regional $ 1 and get this, beef jerkey$ 1.25</p>

[loveblue]

<p>bears: Where are you now? I am confused.</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>love
I’m now officially in the land of OZ, casino hotel in Nevada!!!
I wrote^that from LA, Art Center College is train and bus ride away from the downtown.
America! the beautiful!!!
I better go before they’d kick me out.
I just snuck in here to check on CC, chiao</p>

[kmazza]

<p>hilarious. surprised u didn’t go to the Getty while in LA. happy trails…</p>

[loveblue]

<p>Wish you win big money in the casino, bears!</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>Kuma-chan
I did MOCA and that was a purpose#1 to see what that ^LA kingpin, Mr. Eli Broad and his man, Jeff Deich are at.
then I read review on Eva Hesse Hammar on this free magazine I picked up at the Art Center when I was about to leave just killing time, dung!! then again, it was done Jan 2nd. so didn’t feel soo bad.
It just that all museums are spread out too far with no way getting around without driving s**ks.
thou I must admit that I changed my mind about LA proper going on T-shirt in the sun this end of January. I mean, people have flip-flops on!!!</p>

<p>MOCA etc review to be follow… depending on how things are now here I’m in the library@Evergreen State. generous free internet access—love love love this place </p>

<p>love
noway I’d know how to use them hi tech casino machines. You can do everything with computing thing; horse race, porker, slot whatnot.</p>