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<p>I’m not remotely arguing that point. In fact, I’ve tried to ram that into my girls’ heads. I personally recommend that they use both pills and condoms once they become sexually active since neither form of birth control is 100%. But condoms should be non-negotiable.</p>
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I agree completely. The rise of antibiotic resistant gonorrhea scares me to death. I just want young people not to lose sight of how dangerous sexually transmitted diseases are. I’m a child of the AIDS generation, so that information wasn’t taken for granted.</p>
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<p>Yes. I’ve told my girls “any guy who says he loves you but goes on to ask you to have sex with him without a condom does NOT love you.” I say it over and over, hoping to God that it becomes branded on their brain. Yes, I admit, this is one time I am trying to brainwash them.</p>
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<p>Off the topic of contraception, but on Tuesday Rush struck again, unable to resist spending a big chunk of his program attacking a woman:</p>
<p>[Limbaugh</a> can’t help himself](<a href=“http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/07/10602536-limbaugh-cant-help-himself]Limbaugh”>http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/07/10602536-limbaugh-cant-help-himself)</p>
<p>Apparently, all you have to do to earn Rush’s displeasure is to be a young woman with a brain and an opinion, although educated young women seem to be especially threatening to him. This guy is really, really sick.</p>
<p>[Birth</a> Control Debate: New Hampshire Lawmakers Pass Repeal Of Contraception Coverage](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>Birth Control Debate: New Hampshire Lawmakers Pass Repeal Of Contraception Coverage | HuffPost Latest News)</p>
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<p>What century are we in? Is this for real?</p>
<p>BTW, both of the lawmakers referenced above are women.</p>
<p>^ This is truly scary.</p>
<p>(note: I live in the great state of Virginia which also has some woefully ignorant lawmakers).</p>
<p>Well, Indiana tried to eliminate Planned Parenthood, so I think we are top candidates for stupidity.
I remember our school board being in a tizzy because we have had 40+ pregnancies in the hs and junior high the last couple of years. They blamed everything except the “health advisors” that came in to discuss how the only safe birth control was absitnence. Seems a few of those kids decided that they would risk it, since the other bc methods weren’t going to make a difference anyway. for those concerned taxpayers, all 40 of those young mothers qualify for medicaid, food stamps, TANF and subsidized day care and housing. Seems like birth control (and sex education) would be better for our economy. </p>
<p>And these lawmakers do understand that the large majority of women on bcps are married or in committed relationships. We are not only taxpayers, we are voters. For all this talk two years ago that the new breed of lawmakers was going to focus on the economy, this is the latest in a string of arguments that do not help the economy.</p>
<p>For as long as I can remember, the rhetoric has been smaller government, smaller government, and so on. Yet it seems like everytime we turn around, some legislature is telling us what we should be doing in our own dang bedrooms. And it’s getting worse. </p>
<p>If the church wants to fight to not have state control then give up state tax breaks. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t fight the government to have control over your affairs while at the same time accepting government money in the form of tax breaks. One or the other has got to go.</p>
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Or they simply stop providing the services/employment which has happened in the past and isn’t particularly beneficial.
I’m not Catholic, but it seems to me that the question should be “is there a way to get to the desired result in a manner that respects dissent” and I think there easily could be, which is what leads me to believe the core isn’t about providing the service, it’s about teaching a lesson. In some areas, Catholic facilities provide a lot of different services which would be missed dearly if discontinued.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the hypocrisy continues. Presidential advisor Axelrod who railed against Limbaugh is planning to go on Maher’s show. So to Axelrod, I guess if Limbaugh had used the c word instead of the slut word, it would have been hunky dory.</p>
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<p>LOL…thanks for giving me the daily does of hypocrisy before my first cup of coffee…Now I’ve met the quota for the day.</p>
<p>I’m on the left-leaning side of this debate. However, I think Bill Maher should be chastised by liberals when he uses obscene and denigrating language about women or any other group. Just because he holds progressive viewpoints should not innoculate him from criticism by the left.</p>
<p>My son took me to see Bill Maher’s movie about religion and atheism. I can’t remember the name. However, I was horrified to see how insulting, demeaning and condescending he was to ordinary people (church goers) in the movie. It really turned me off to him. I do not think that is funny. And I am not religious myself.</p>
<p>I am sure I am an old fogey. But I wish people would stick to civil language when trying to debate policy issues. Ugly language cheapens us all.</p>
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<p>It should be, and has been. The guy is a misogynistic jerk. He is not, however, influential in his party. </p>
<p>The only public figures on the left that are remotely as influential as Limbaugh would be maybe Colbert and Stewart. But no politician on the left retracts statements just because Colbert or Stewart criticize them, whereas Limbaugh has a history of making politicians on the right toe the line.</p>
<p>TatinG quote</p>
<p>“Meanwhile the hypocrisy continues. Presidential advisor Axelrod who railed against Limbaugh is planning to go on Maher’s show. So to Axelrod, I guess if Limbaugh had used the c word instead of the slut word, it would have been hunky dory.”</p>
<p>So true…only liberal men are allowed to trash women…again and again. Even a president.</p>
<p>I don’t like Bill Maher. But I will point out that there was a big difference between the person he called a nasty name, and the person Rush called a nasty name, as well as how many people were listening when he said it. I don’t defend either one, but it’s awfully whiny for Rush’s pals to defend himself by pointing at Bill Maher. That tactic didn’t work in kindergarten.</p>
<p>I am a conservative woman. I do not listen to Rush. (or Beck or Hannity). Over the years I have heard audio clips of him. I can sum up my feelings for Rush with one word. ICK! </p>
<p>It is very difficult to listen to the current media discussions regarding Bc/Catholics/insurance coverage without getting tripped up by all the issue “spinning”. I long for an adult to enter the room and facilitate an objective discussion and stop feeding the monster. Too many half truths and accusations from the left and the right are going to cause serious decisiveness.</p>
<p>(when I say “adult in the the room”, I don’t mean on CC…)</p>
<p>I don’t condone what Limbaugh said in the least. I just don’t like certain people getting all preachy and ‘holier than thou’ and then going on a program where the host called a prominent woman a word that way worse than ‘slut’. </p>
<p>One of the hosts on MSNBC called a woman a ‘slut’ and he is still on the air. </p>
<p>I don’t like language of this sort no matter who the language is aimed at. I also really dislike any music that refers to women as ‘**<strong><em>es’ and ‘hos’. I think NBC needs to retitle it’s new show which is named “GCB” which stands for "Good Christian </em></strong><em>es". Really, when did '</em>***’ become an okay thing to call a woman even on network TV?</p>
<p>Ha. I see that the automatic language censors on this thread allow ‘slut’ but don’t allow 'b!tches", which I guess gives some indication of which word is worse.</p>
<p>B.Maher and his foul mouth are another story. My big issue with Limbaugh, is his REASON (and he was very specific and explained things very graphically) as to why he called Ms Fluke a slut and a prostitute. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t his issue with her about the fact that she takes BCP’s? We are discussing contraception? He went further on in his sick little program to graphically discuss her sex life and the “amount” of contraception she uses(??!) demonstrating a profound ignorance as to: a) how oral contraception works and b) women.</p>