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<p>That latest video seems to largely confirm the theater manager was occupied with another customer. While the shooter did seem to chat with the manager, it seems he wasn’t satisfied.</p>
<p>Would that be a pep talk or a pop talk?</p>
<p>What will matter is if he saw a physician in months prior to the shooting. what meds is he taking? Had he seen a psychiatrist? neurologist? Did they follow the rules about asking him if he had guns?</p>
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This has been a source of contention in Florida. They tried to pass legislation prohibiting doctors from asking this question. I believe its hung up on appeal.</p>
<p>If I were a doc, I’m not sure I’d WANT to know whether my patient owned a gun or more firepower. What sort of liability does that expose the healthcare professional to, if they are told by the patient that s/he owns a gun? What is the healthcare professional supposed to do at that point?</p>
<p>I also don’t understand why anyone would pass a law PROHIBITING a doc from asking about gun(s). This could be important, especially if they are concerned about the mental health of the patient and those around him/her.</p>
<p>That’s sounds contradicting, HImom. </p>
<p>As a doctor you don’t want to know if your patient has a gun because of the liability, but you don’t want a law passed that will remove the liability…I don’t know. It just didn’t make sense in my head. </p>
<p>I think pediatricians have a responsibility to ask parents questions about having guns in households and providing safety information to families who have children and guns at home. Same thing as asking parents in Florida if they have a swimming pool and providing safety information to families who have children and swimming pools at home.</p>
<p>well I certainly agree, but it took a federal judge to overturn a law that prevented doctors from asking about guns</p>
<p><a href=“Federal judge blocks Florida law preventing doctors from discussing gun ownership”>http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-07-03/story/federal-judge-blocks-florida-law-preventing-doctors-discussing-gun</a></p>
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<p>Because the gun pushers wants gun owners to feel all warm and fuzzy about owning guns. Being questioned about it doesn’t fit that agenda. </p>
<p>Discussion of the issue about guns and doctors. <a href=“Gun Ownership Bill Would Prevent Doctors From Asking About Weapons In Home | HuffPost Latest News”>HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost;
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<p>Careful. Considering how much corn syrup is in all that pop being sold here in the US, there’s no telling how much more the shooter may have felt threatened if popcorn was considered threatening enough…</p>
<p>“I also don’t understand why anyone would pass a law PROHIBITING a doc from asking about gun(s).”</p>
<p>Really??? Docs are responsible members of our society. They could certainly report those those with questionable judgment. What then? The current reporting system for seriously dangerous persons … like the Virginia Tech and Colorado Theater shooters … isn’t working. What are prospects for less-serious “might be a problem” reports?</p>
<p>The “pop” was a play on words re: talking to himself about “popping” the poor victim (and getting hit by popcorn). Not about soda, which wasn’t involved.</p>
<p>The gun law thing puts healthcare professionals in a potentially awful situation,.They have a responsibility to protect the patients, and in many states the mental health providers had a “duty to warn” or now a “duty to protect” a potential victim if a person has an active plan to hurt another person (based on the Tarasoff rule in CA). Makes it harder to assess the credibility of a threat if the doctor can’t ask the client if he/she has a weapon at home (assuming the threat involves a gun).</p>
<p>And the pediatricians should be able to assess the needs and safety of their patients. Just as there is a responsibility to watch for and report abuse, thee is a responsibility to assess the safety of a child. Just the presence of a weapon is not the issue. It is about the safety of the child.</p>
<p>Don’t understand the hung jury about the killing of the teen in the Dunn case. Heard the shooter was another FL retired police capt. Scary! Glad he was convicted on 3 counts of attempted 2nd degree murder. Wow! Weird verdict. </p>
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<p>Pediatricians have set speeches for parents at different ages. Discussion on gun safety can easily be included for all parents rather than coming up with specific laws about it.</p>
<p>Its bad enough that your Dr. can ask you about alcohol consumption. If he deems it too much and a hazard he can report you and you can then lose your license.</p>
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<p>Well at least they found the loud music guy guilty on enough counts that he is going to jail for those.</p>
<p>“Its bad enough that your Dr. can ask you about alcohol consumption. If he deems it too much and a hazard he can report you and you can then lose your license.”</p>
<p>Interesting. Didn’t know that. That just encourages people to lie so that they won’t lose their license. </p>
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<p>Where is that the case? The rules about reporting a potentially impaired driver to the DMV varies widely from state to state, and is not done lightly. For example, in many states, a patient with a seizure disorder must be seizure free for 6 or 12 months before they can drive again. Some states have mandatory reporting regulations, some have permissive ones or none at all . Here is an article about this issue <a href=“Reporting by Physicians of Impaired Drivers and Potentially Impaired Drivers - PMC”>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1495589/</a> and here’s a summary of the range across states <a href=“Physician reporting of medically impaired drivers - PubMed”>Physician reporting of medically impaired drivers - PubMed;
<p><a href=“http://www2.potsdam.edu/alcohol/InTheNews/DrinkingAndDriving/1090952013.html#.UwDm-cu9KSM”>http://www2.potsdam.edu/alcohol/InTheNews/DrinkingAndDriving/1090952013.html#.UwDm-cu9KSM</a></p>
<p>We can start here. I will post more later today</p>
<p>Yeah, dad says he could be sentenced for 60 years. Since he’s 50 or so now, that could effectively be a life sentence. Really callous and violent behavior by Dunn!</p>
<p><a href=“Man Loses License for Drinking at Home”>http://getmadd.com/DontDrinkatHome.htm</a></p>
<p>If you read down into the middle body of this article you will see that in Pa. a Dr. can be held liable if he does not report a patient who goes on to do harm.</p>