D1 Power 4 Conference recruit not being offered a scholarship

Title IX compliance eventually killed my male Olympic sport at my D1 university, as well as some other male sports. Times change. The landscape changes. Sports can now transition to club, and students can continue to compete.

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Yup, and the House settlement will kill a bunch more sports, at least at the Varsity level. Men’s will be cut first, and then women’s.

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The football coached at public universities are often the highest paid state employee, making much much more than the governor. Just how it is. Ask Nick Saban.

In Colorado, Gov Polis makes $141k (but he is a millionaire from family money), President of CU system and the chancellor of the Boulder campus each make about $830k per year, but Coach Deion Sanders makes about $5M in salary (but a LOT more on his NIL deals) and his sons make about $5M and $3M on their reported NIL deals.

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this is great news for those who make the 10 man MXC roster for SEC teams - they are much more likely to get significant athletic scholarship $

will drain talent from schools who don’t offer $

I’ll wait and see to what level any of these schools fund the 10 XC rostered runners. For now, I would think SEC M XC teams are going to see fewer total scholarship dollars.

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IMO, more money will not go to the XC athletes. With a now larger football roster, that is where the athletic dollars will get spent.

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My son’s university canceled men’s track and cross country a decade ago.

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why would they cap the roster below the allowable limit (17) if they didn’t plan on increasing overall athletic scholarship $?

Fewer athletes, lower costs. IMO with a cap of 10 athletes, schools may find it easier to just disband the team.

Big picture I am with momofthree24 that any increased athletic investment in the SEC (and rest of P4/5 schools) will go to revenue generating teams.

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rather than conjecture, perhaps a XC recruit (or parent of one) to a P4 school could share what the schools are actually saying

Hard facts would be great, but I expect some coaches have no idea what’s going to happen yet. The final House v NCAA settlement isn’t even finished yet.

@politeperson what are you hearing?

I also want to note that what recruits are being told right now could change many times.

I can tell you that one P4 school has already pulled scholarships from XC athletes. They still get a small (around 5k) amount from the school’s NIL collective, but the athletic scholarships are gone.

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My son’s G5 school has 6 men’s sports and 11 women’s sports. I would guess many schools will shift in a similar direction.

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My daughter is a cross country and track athlete and has ā€˜preferred walk-on’ spots to a Big 10 school, an ACC school and scholarship spots to some mid-majors. As recently as this week, the Big 10 and ACC coaches still tell her that they are confident in their go forward approach and have not changed their plans and they are excited for her to join. With that said, I’m pretty pessimistic about the whole thing and my gut is telling me to go with one of the mid major offers even though she has her heart set on a bigger program. It’s hard not to see the writing on the wall.

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Thanks for sharing. Difficult choices. Is she a 2025? Is she hearing anything from mid-major coaches if they are going to opt-in to revenue sharing and/or might limit roster sizes? She definitely should be asking them those questions (even though they might say they don’t know yet.)

Another thing to consider: Missouri men’s XC roster is currently at 30. It’s going to be a blood bath to get to 10. Those remaining will be probably consider themselves fortunate to survive. Not the time to be expecting a big scholarship increase.

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Yes, she is a 2025. One mid-major is a basketball power and I anticipate that they will opt-in to take care of those players. They currently have 30+ girls on their cross country roster and the coach is very vague on how he is going to handle the limit…so that seems like a no-go. The other two programs are also basketball only schools and are currently under the 17 roster cap and say they do not anticipate any impact. I think that at the end of the day, especially for 2025s, they have to be super excited about the school and be happy there even if something happens to their spot on the team.

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Just so I understand - are you saying that a roster of 30 with 5 scholarships to distribute will have a higher athletic scholarship $ award/athlete than a roster of 10 (with uncertain how many, but most likely not going to be fewer than the current 5 scholarships)?

Where are you getting the 5 scholarships number? As I’ve stated, some P4s are giving exactly 0 scholarships to both men’s and women’s XC. Most, if not all XC scholarships are partial. Just because a school can offer full rides to the whole roster doesn’t mean they will.

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ok - is Missouri currently giving 0?

I don’t know - that’s why I’m asking