Lacrosse is the only scholarship sport at Hopkins.
Right. They are D1 Lax and the standards for admissions are significantly different from other sports there. In fact they have one of the highest, non negotiable testing bars in most sports. Just making that clear for other readers who might not realize this.
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Yep. Learned that lesson.
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And a guidance counselor might not realize it and tell a parent “oh there are athletes who get into Hopkins with a B- average and lower test scores. You might be accepted” Maybe but unlikely.
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We’ve had students get burned with a 1490 and a (new and naive) coach’s support. Our CCs learned their lesson and warn everyone early. This is where prepping and testing high early Junior year can be quite helpful. Every year we hear of a kid who the coach wanted, spent time and energy on, but was ultimately unable to get over the 1500 mark and couldn’t get the green light from admissions.
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What tonygrace is saying is that the student you know going to JHU for Lacrosse who you said is ‘attending on athletic talent and not academic achievement’, most likely had a 1500+ SAT score (or the equivalent ACT score.)
Actually, as has been mentioned, lacrosse at Johns Hopkins is D1 and is the only sport where a recruit might be under 1500. Every other sport it is basically required to be above that.
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Nope.
I was saying the student was likely a lacrosse player, which is one of the top D1 teams in the country, despite the school otherwise being a D3 schools. The standards don’t apply to JHU recruiting as a whole.
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Hopkins gives scholarships? In what sport? Lacrosse?
I have heard this for Track. In fact, their standards are the same or harder than Ivies.
Yes, only for men’s and women’s lacrosse. They are D1 and compete in the Big Ten.
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Their minimum standards are much higher than any Ivy, they are even higher than the top NESCACs. MIT is the only other school that I am aware of with similar standards.
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One thing that is interesting is that other sports benefit from other perks like laundry or a super strong trainer/PT staff that or not as commonly available to D3 athletes. The coach (not Lax) told us JHU feels a certain obligation to somewhat “spread the wealth” when it comes to their athletes.
It also has that medical school thing going on! (not on the same campus but close) Some D3 schools have wonderful sports facilities, others not so much. Actually, that’s true for D1 and D2 schools too.
Another piece of advice I have for the OP is to look at the travel schedule for the colleges your daughter is looking at. Look at which schools are on the schedule, how far they are, how many home games there are. I didn’t do this and the first year my daughter played was brutal. She had out of state weekend play for the last 3 weekends of her season. On buses for 8 hours each way, sleeping 4 to a room in hotels, noisy and studying was hard (she can’t read in a car or on a bus). She was exhausted (also tired because her games went from hs play of a 25 minute half to a 30 minute half and she ran that entire time), was in engineering so had a lot of studying to do, and it was time for finals. The next year her coach scheduled things better and less traveling. By her 3rd and 4th years, they traveled one weekend in Feb and all the rest of the games were at home or in-state (less than 3 hours away). Made a big difference if a Sat game took 1/2 a day or 3 days with travel.
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A tidbit here is to think about having your daughter be at the bottom of the class academically.
I had this conversation with one of my friends about his child, who was close to qualifying with the Ivy’s academic index, and the coach wanted his child if they added 5 points to their AI. We had both gone to Princeton, and I asked my roommate if his child would struggle if they did get in, and he said they probably would. That child wound up accepting an athletic scholarship to a good but not Ivy League school and graduated. My roommate had two more who did get into and go to Ivies as athletic recruits and struggled academically. In our day, we saw many drop off their team because the academics were too much to maintain when coupled with a sport.
Most kids find that college is a steamroller compared to high school, and have to make major adjustments to learn how to handle the workload. The best line I ever heard was when the freshman coach (Ivies were the last holdover on frosh football, long after the NCAA permitted first year eligibility), and the coach told our team before midterm exams that, “I know that some of you think that you’re not going to be alive after next week, but you’ll make it through.”) None of us were thinking about our games all week like we had done in high school. This work overload is far from being reserved to Ivy League schools.
Just be sure that your daughter can handle the academics, wherever she goes.
I’m not sure that laundry should enter the decision at all, but athletic trainers/PT can be huge. Try to find out about the availability and quality of the training staff.
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