<p>Oh no, the Dookies lose again. Did someone say OVERRATED??</p>
<p>How can say a team with a 27-3 record, with the number 1 RPI in the nation and the toughest schedule in the nation, is overrated?</p>
<p>kklicker - Don’t you have a bridge to go lurk under? Bye bye now.</p>
<p>dang nab it… lost to UNC… o man Duke got it within 3 on Nelson’s three… then blew it…</p>
<h1>$%*! Duke was awesome the first 3 minutes of the game, but it went downhill from there. 
I actually thought we might win in the last couple seconds…it looked like a come back… Tyler Hansbrough was on a roll tonight. :mad:</h1>
<p>duke probably shouldn’t be classified as overrated, since that requires ranking a team based on predictions on how they would do against competition, as oppossed to the results of the games they played. Because duke played the hardest schedule in the nation(as ranked by AP) and beat number 2 texas to remain number one, eventually losing to georgetown but still maintaining the best record while playing the hardest schedule, they probably weren’t overrated. Their ranking will now drop, deservedly so, but I hardly think it was due to a flawed ranking system. IT was more than their best player sucked the last three games and it showed.</p>
<p>its better this way anyways. The loss gives them more of a motivation to win in the playoffs. It’s just like how teams can’t go undefeated all throughout the regular and post season. They must lose a game to see their weaknesses so they can be better in the playoffs. I still have Duke all the way</p>
<p>Another bad game for Redick, thats 4 in a row. I don’t like the way we’re ending the season. If we lose the first game of the ACC tourney, we might find ourselves out of a #1 seed. Come Monday when new polls come out, we’ll probably be #3 behind UConn and Villanova, and deservingly so.</p>
<p>The last time Duke lost on Senior Night, they went on to win a National Championship.</p>
<p>A few points:
Florida State is always a tough place to play. Not the best of road teams but lots of teams have trouble going in there.
To say that Duke is guaranteed a 1 seed is ridiculous. UConn is pretty much a lock, Memphis if they win C-USA tourney (and maybe even if they don’t), then Nova, Duke, and Gonzaga are all dependent on conference tourney results.
When a team that’s trying to finish off a perfect 16-0 conference schedule, and gets beat in game 15 by a team that was 7-7 at the time (and that win all but punches their ticket to the Dance), those fans should tell the #1 ranked team in the land that they’re overrated.
The Big East is much stronger than the ACC. You’ve been watching too much ESPN if you think the ACC is still the best conference in the nation.
UConn is 7-2 against top 25 RPI teams. That’s 9 games against teams in the RPI top 25. They have one of the toughest schedules around.
JJ is not only not the best college basketball player in the past 10 years, he’s not even the best this year. Adam Morrison deserves POY.</p>
<p>Duke IS a lock for a number one seed. You do not know how the slection commitee works. They use RPI and SOS as a very large determing factor in seeding and wheather or not they get in. Duke has the top slot in both of those. Duke has a lot of quality wins, as much as any other team. Duke BEAT both Memphis and Texas, a number 1 and a number 2 seed.</p>
<p>JJ needs some time to rest and so does the entire team. I’d give them nothing to do until Wed, give them a three day break. Then I would do the same the next week gearing up for the NCAA tournament. 6 days of break in two weeks cant be nothing but beneficial for this team, and its not like being a little rusty will hurt them, as they play a high finish ACC team and a 16 seed team as warmups.</p>
<p>Duke isn’t a lock for a number one seed. It’s going to depend on how we do in the ACC tourney.</p>
<p>RPI…
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<p>The RPI is very flawed. I think you’d be hard pressed to find a human who thinks that Wichita State, Northern Iowa, and Bradley are all better teams than Boston College, but the RPI seems to think so. RPI is used as one of many blunt tools, primarily to separate the teams on the bubble, NOT to determine who gets the #1 seed. There are plenty more important factors than the RPI once you get near the top.</p>
<p>Duke beat Memphis and Texas over 3 months before Selection Sunday, those wins are a distant memory in the minds of the selection committee. If you don’t think that Last 10 has a fair amount of weight among the top seeds in the minds of the selection committee, you are wrong. You can’t tell me a team that has lost 3 games in a row (which Duke could conceivably do) is a lock for a #1 seed.</p>
<p>They haven’t lost 3 in a row. I don’t think its so much that Duke is way better (at least not now) that its a lock for a number 1 seed, but who else should get it over Duke, there is no one. Also remember a few years back Duke lost 4 out of their last 7 and was still a number one seed. They have been 7 out of the last 8 years, 8 out of the last 9, b/c they got it this year.</p>
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<p>I think that Duke will need to at least advance to the ACC conference finals to be guaranteed a #1 seed.
And what is wrong with Redick? He was horrific last night! When Redick is cold, he is really cold. </p>
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Finally somebody who agrees with me. Adam Morrison has made so much more out of nothing than Redick. To take this further, I don’t even think that Redick is the best player on his team. Williams is. His play is much more consistent.</p>
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Have you seen Hansborough play at all this year? Sure it was a great game for TH, but some of his other ones were even more spetacular.</p>
<p>I must confess that no, I don’t keep up with UNC basketball. Shame on me. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I know you just said what it is hazmat, JWilliam was saying that RPI was a determining factor in seeding when up at the top it really doesn’t mean that much.</p>