<p>It’s the Real Thing.</p>
<p>hahahahahahah^^</p>
<p>If you go back to the beginning of this thread, you can see I started it. Reality is that this incident has not been given all that much press coverage. It’s mostly been confined to a few local media outlets and the campus newspaper. </p>
<p>I think a similar event at almost any college, including any public U, would have been given the same sort of coverage. For example, take a look at this link to see how much damage was done when a SUNY Albany athlete was busted for drugs: </p>
<p>[Tiki</a> spurs SUNY action – Page 1 – Times Union - Albany NY](<a href=“http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=933897&category=SPORTS]Tiki”>http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=933897&category=SPORTS)</p>
<p>I just happened to learn about the Dartmouth incident. I came on to CC thinking I could find out the “back story” on the Dartmouth board. There was nothing, so I began this thread.</p>
<p>Doing so really had zilch to do with the fact that Dartmouth was involved. It was more that the fact situation raised a lot of issues I think are of interest to parents and students. Drug use is one. Another is what your kid should do if the cops interview him. The danger of retaliating against someone who does something we don’t like. The basics of the 4th amendment. The folly of making stupid plans via email or text messages. While some of these issues weren’t obvious when I began the thread, they are what has kept it going.</p>
<p>I joined this thread for one reason. I was shocked at the early majority of posters who felt that the student who reported the illegal drug activity was in the wrong. I really had a need to understand their reasoning. Dartmouth, money, prestige and priviledge did not (at that point) enter into my thoughts.</p>
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<p>While he admitted to using pot and cocaine in high school, in his book he says he “stopped getting high” sometime after he moved to NY to attend Columbia. So it sounds like drugs were part of his college experience.</p>
<p>Actually, I was also surprised that the students agreed to talk to the police without having a lawyer present. If they did so that evening, might one explanation be that they were too high or drunk to properly evaluate the foolishness of that?</p>
<p>There is also the distinct possibility that Aubert was feeling the effects of alcohol, lost his temper, and called Security. Apparently there had been a house meeting earlier in the evening at which some people, at least, drank heavily.</p>
<p>A link re: a much earlier post about cocaine in the Ivy League not being newsworthy, some other shenanigans, maybe.
From a few years ago…</p>
<p>[Good</a> Girls? Sex scandal at Brown - TIME](<a href=“http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1075075,00.html]Good”>http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1075075,00.html)</p>
<p>The Brown official’s take on this is probably the most obscene.</p>
<p>I’m curious as to why the 2 Brown students were charged, yet the “john” wasn’t.</p>
<p>jonri, these were Binghamton players, not SUNY Albany, that were involved:</p>
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<p>The fact that they spent over $900K for a 99 page study is a crime in itself! And what’s up with the no taxpayer/tuition money claim- where else did SUNY get it’s infamous “slush fund” from for heaven’s sake! Ridiculous at a time when SUNY employees are facing mandatory furloughs…and now we need an “athletic czar”?!</p>
<p>a few years ago?</p>
<p>the Brown story was from 1985</p>
<p>as for the Brown official’s take - the girls had gone to the Brown chaplain for help, he in turn went to the Dean who in turn went to the police not to turn them in but on the girls’ behalf </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/1987/12/08/us/ex-students-testify-on-prostitution-at-brown.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/1987/12/08/us/ex-students-testify-on-prostitution-at-brown.html</a></p>
<p>“I think a similar event at almost any college, including any public U, would have been given the same sort of coverage. For example, take a look at this link to see how much damage was done when a SUNY Albany athlete was busted for drugs.”</p>
<p>The Binghamton story was much more about a coach running an outlaw program (supported by the president) than about drugs.</p>
<p>re #390 & 392: I guess I could have picked a better example. I was only trying to point out that if the same thing had happened at any college, especially one in a rural area, it would probably get press coverage in the area. To prove this, I googled “SUNY” + cocaine and found that link.</p>
<p>Any news about what has happened to the accused Dartmouth students?</p>
<p>Looks like the only one who hasn’t plead is the one who was scheduled to start law school; of course; he’s also the one who wsn’t charged with possessing cocaine:</p>
<p>[TheDartmouth.com</a> | Student pleads no contest at trial](<a href=“http://thedartmouth.com/2010/07/20/news/nocontest]TheDartmouth.com”>http://thedartmouth.com/2010/07/20/news/nocontest)</p>
<p>All in all, I think they are very lucky to have avoided felony convictions.</p>
<p>They got off easy.</p>
<p>The GFG wrote:
“I guess the state school kids are off the hook then…They’re not as lucky as the Dartmouth brats and thus don’t have to act like they are.”</p>
<p>Wow. We have one State U kid and one Dartmouth kid and neither one are brats. Prosecution of crimes varies not only by the details of the event but also by jurisdiction. We’re on the west coast and I’ve seen things skate at our local state college (Evergreen State College) than are stunning to me (like students overturning a police cruiser and setting it on fire). </p>
<p>So, generally, generalizations are incorrect. : ) There are brats to be had on every campus . . . and on some forums too.</p>
<p>Most prosecutors would give a first offense a big break as they should. Even street thugs get multiple breaks before most do much hard time. That’s why they are still out on the streets with rap sheets pages long.</p>
<p>New Hampshire has a budget crunch like most other states. The State has closed a bunch of courthouses this year and police, prosecutors, witnesses and those charged now have to drive further to court houses. There’s been a crunch for jail space too.</p>
<p>I’ve heard of judges lecturing prosecutors on discretion so as not to burden the state with imprisonment costs for minor crimes.</p>
<p>I also recall one time where I was a witness to a drunk driving accident (I called it in). The prosecutor wanted me for a witness - I told him that I would be out of the country for three weeks and he told me that it was okay - he’d just do a plea bargain with the guy. My guess is that he gave the guy a good offer stating that there was an eyewitness available even though I wouldn’t be available. If we had to try every case, our courts would be completely clogged up.</p>
<p>I also agree with the poster who said that this matter could have been handled differently by the fraternity brother. I believe that an intervention and a letter to the parents would have been far more productive than doing this. The only purpose in bringing in the police was to see the end of these kids future. I understand that drug use is dangerous but lets be real and understand that once police are called the person who did the calling has done so for other reasons. The parents could have been notified and the brothers could have let the offenders know that if this continued in the house than they would notify the police. They could have even demanded that they de pledge the frat if they were so concerned about how this would effect them. </p>
<p>I think the person who called the police had very poor intentions.</p>