<p>botw seems like an intelligent enough person, and I’m sure he and mrs. botw have thought through various scenarios for their family. No one on this board knows enough about their situation to comment or pass judgment on their decision. If he’d come on here asking for opinions on that topic, then fine. But his question was about art sales, not whether 5 or 50 hours of day care is preferrable.</p>
<p>But his question was about art sales, not whether 5 or 50 hours of day care is
He brought it up by complaing how much money it was costing him- I simply pointed out that if he needed less child care, then it would be less expensive and the child would benefit.
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<p>YK, emeraldkity4, back off. What’s the big difference between 40 hours a week in daycare and 50 hours a week, really? It’s a four month old BABY. It’s oblivious as long as it’s being well cared for (which I’m assuming is the case). It sleeps half the live-long day anyway. What, do you think that BOTW, who is complaining about $7/hour being too pricey, has the money for a live-in nanny?</p>
<p>I guess I don’t understand why you would have children, if you can’t afford the expense.</p>
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<p>Not MY baby! :D</p>
<p>I do agree that there is no need to come up with rigid rules governing things like this. No one knows what will happen in the future. Life throws curveballs. </p>
<p>In this particular instance, if the BOTW family doesn’t like the cause, don’t participate. A 4-month old will not know that you declined to purchase his or her “art.”</p>
<p>Complaining about the expense doesn’t mean you can’t afford it. </p>
<p>I agree with Youdon’tsay that this discussion needs to head off in an entirely different direction. </p>
<p>If the four month old could actually produce artwork, that would solve the entire problem: the parents could sell the child’s artwork, and use the proceeds to pay for, well, everything. :)</p>
<p>No intention to slam working parents, but the notion that babies sleep all day and are therefore oblivious as long as they are well cared for, and that caretakers are somehow fungible and irrelevant to babies, would certainly be challenged by a whole lot of developmental psychologists and attachment theorists. No desire to debate this, just a respectful but strong disagreement with Pizzagirl.</p>
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<p>I can afford my children…I’ve never said otherwise.</p>
<p>As to the question on working parents vs stay at home parents, discuss away if you like. We’ve made our decision based on our family situation, and I’m proud of the decisions that my wife and I have made.</p>
<p>Not every thought needs to be spoken…the golden rule around our house, especially when discussing “hot button” topics. Maybe we should all remember that when posting on topics that are known to stir up huge emotions, such as SAHM vs. Career Mom (or Dad)</p>
<p>We all love our kids and do what we think is best for them. Hopefully in the end we can look back and KNOW that we chose wisely.</p>
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<p>That’s such a good saying. I might just put it on my door leading out of the house.</p>
<p>As someone who stayed at home with the children as babies, I can truly say it’s not as simple a calculation as it might seem.</p>
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<p>You cannot be serious. This is not a sack of flour we are taking about, it’s a human being albeit a tiny one. Plus you’re about 100 years behind in child development theory.</p>
<p>Also, if I’d know I could have had a four month old who slept half the day and didn’t care whose chest he wanted to be attached too, I’d have custom ordered one of those!</p>
<p>"Also, if I’d know I could have had a four month old who slept half the day and didn’t care whose chest he wanted to be attached too, I’d have custom ordered one of those! "</p>
<p>LOL… but my first was like that. They do exist! I was soooo lucky. I was one of those parents who was afraid to have a second because the first was so easy. Slept through the night (5.5 hours, breastfed!) from day one until she started teething at 13.5 months. Never got separation anxiety. Begged to go to school before she turned two (late talker but she started making sense really fast). Both my kids love to be dropped off, rarely cried.</p>
<p>I don’t know if that’s because I’m so awful or what, but I can attest to the fact that such children do in fact exist.</p>
<p>Folks, I don’t mind when you post to the thread, but I do mind when I get snotty PMs from people who feel they are superior to me because of the choices that we made in the family.</p>
<p>Please, if you feel superior and are so disgusted with the choices that our family has made, please consider not reading the threads that I post. You surely don’t have to. </p>
<p>If I get more nasty PMs, I’ll forward them on the moderators and ask them to intervene.</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
<p>I have to say that I am stunned by the turn that this thread has taken. Am I missing something? This is the year 2011, not 1961. It’s not that unusual for four month old babies to be taken care of by someone other than their mother so that the mom can go to work. I think Babyontheway mentioned that the daycare is at his or his wife’s place of work. That proximity to her parent puts their child at an advantage over the majority of children in daycare situations.</p>
<p>Who is anyone to judge someone because they are working parents? I was fortunate to be able to stay home with my children (and that was what I wanted to do) but I would never judge someone else for choosing or needing to go to work. I’ve seen lots of great parenting and lots of bad parenting and the line dividing the two is not at the door to the daycare center.</p>
<p>I always felt left out because I rarely got PMs, but maybe it´s a good thing, I didn´t realize people actually did nasty PMs. Sheesh, if it´s really nasty, peopley should just share it on the thread. Maybe it would spice up the Cafe.</p>
<p>“I’ve seen lots of great parenting and lots of bad parenting and the line dividing the two is not at the door to the daycare center.”</p>
<p>Well said EPTR!!!</p>
<p>LOL oldfort, I read the start of your post as “I rarely got PMS”. :)</p>
<p>I’ve gotten one PM that was less than pleasant. Not ugly, really, but argumentative about something I just didn’t care that much about. That poster is now blocked. :)</p>
<p>Here is my nasty, but not through PM…</p>
<p>How many of us here have tried to take care of more than one infant at a time? Some people here have twins. What happens when both of them cry (hungry, sick, dirty) at the sametime? Who do you take care of first? What´s caretaker to infant ratio at a daycare? Most of us are fairly smart and capable people, what would most of us do if multiple babies are crying at the sametime, especially when they are hungry? I am probably just as capable as most daycare workers, and if I couldn´t handle more than one infant at a time then I don´t know why they should. </p>
<p>This is 2011, people (not just women) should have choices, but babies don´t. I realize not everyone has a choice, but I am not a supporter of having one caretaker for multiple infants.</p>
<p>I no longer get PMS, but I do get hot flashes.</p>