<p>Pregaming seems so dangerous to me because if you take it beforehand ( & lots of things take a while to take affect), it could be pretty hard to tell what you took if you OD unless one of your friends knows exactly what & how much and is able to communicate that.</p>
<p>I’m not saying that every single person there is high, but you have to expect that some will be. I’ve seen people throw up in public enough already.</p>
<p>Wow-I’m pretty liberal, but my kid would be going to one of these things ovr my dead body. My older 2 are not partiers so it never came up, and I don’t think dayglowing existed when the oldest was a teen.</p>
<p>My younger one is still too young for it to have come up, but just…no. Not that she would be a part of anything that involved wet paint anywhere near her clothes or hair-she’s way too vain. I’ll hold onto that as hope that she wouldn’t try to sneak in-I sure won’t be taking her. The whole thing sounds so unappealing.</p>
<p>Last Spring, a local University allowed a company to rent the facility for a dayglow event. The local ER was notified and sent the head of the emergency response team to monitor the event as well as several ambulances on standby. Extra police, EMT’s, fire and rescue were assigned to the location and were quite busy all night. Why would the University allow the promoters to sponsor something like this???</p>
<p>For people who just want to celebrate while being drenched in color, may I suggest either celebrating Holi, or participating in a color run.
[The</a> Color Run coats Seattle runners | Picture This | The Seattle Times](<a href=“http://seattletimes.com/html/picturethis/2018204072_thecolorruncoatsseattlerunners.html]The”>http://seattletimes.com/html/picturethis/2018204072_thecolorruncoatsseattlerunners.html)</p>
<p>Why would the University allow promoters to sponsor an event like this??</p>
<p>one answer: $$</p>
<p>It drives me nuts. Just because the drug culture accoutrement is sold at the local mall or the tickets are sold through ticketmaster or the event takes place on a university campus, it suddenly gets the sheen of pop culture acceptance and it’s all O.K… [Dayglow</a> Incident Sheds Light on Growing EMS Problems of Dance Parties - Major Incidents - @ JEMS.com](<a href=“http://www.jems.com/article/major-incidents/dayglow-incident-sheds-light-growing-ems]Dayglow”>Dayglow Incident Sheds Light on Growing EMS Problems of Dance Parties - JEMS: EMS, Emergency Medical Services - Training, Paramedic, EMT News)</p>
<p>Think about it. How does one listen to four hours of trance music WITHOUT being high?</p>
<p>And I’m with you EK4—go to a Holi event and get high on Krishna . <a href=“- YouTube”>www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3Nyh3kz2ho</a></p>
<p>I read the article in #20. How the heck can such smart people be so dumb? As for the rave, I am solidly in sseamom’s corner. No way would this fly at my house.</p>
<p>When my youngest was a senior in high school, there was a massacre of six young people at a rave after party in the general neighborhood of her high school and where several of her friends lived.</p>
<p>I was not familiar with that whole " scene" as younger D was more into sports & traveling, & she preferred hip-hop music & rock, and the news articles were eye opening.
I also attended a vigil to show support, and to help with the shock of it.
But as a result, emotionally I associate P.L.U.R., with that horrible tragedy. :(</p>
<p>These are rough concerts in terms of the condition of the crowd. A lot of people doing a lot of drugs. For some reason a lot of people think this is a great opportunity to try X and it doesn’t always go as planned. There was one recently that had over 40 kids sent to the hospital for drug related issues.</p>
<p>My son would love that run, as he is a serious runner. </p>
<p>It seems like 15-30 hospital transports is the norm, but the concerts are usually attended by at least 3,000 kids. I think this is a cross between a rave and a concert. Can sober kids still have fun at these? I think they could. I’ll just stand ready to pick them up early if it’s not what they’re excpecting.</p>
<p>Forgot to add that I really do appreciate everyone’s input. I’m relaying these comments to my son.</p>
<p>I would let him go. Senior year can be very stressful and I think from how you describe your son, he would appreciate your trust in him and would enjoy himself. It’s a win/win situation-- especially if you provide the transportation. </p>
<p>My D2 attended many concerts her senior year of high school. She would comment to me about the drugs and other things, but she always kept herself safe and went with a group of friends. We live by public transportation, so there weren’t issues around driving.</p>
<p>He will be in college next year and I think it is good for him to have exposure to different things before he goes. Also, because the age is 17, it is not like you are breaking a law by letting him go (as opposed to parents that allow alcohol in their homes to underaged minors).</p>
<p>My D’s friend have done color runs and had a blast!</p>
<p>Depending on my kid- I would let mine go as well. But if I suspected even a tiny bit that they or their friends were going to " pregame", I would look for alternative activities. I would also would make it clear that I was available for early pickup incase they find it is a little much.
I also would check out the venue for safety precautions, I worry about huge crowds…</p>
<p>I admit I let my 7th grader attend an all ages show at the Offramp in Seattle, to see Garbage in the 90’s with two brothers she had known since grade school, it presumably went fine, although I heard later that she crowd surfed:eek:</p>
<p>Many parents on CC have urged kids to report drinking, drugging roommates, and to me, this would be far worse a situation to put an underage kid in. There’s proof nationwide that these events are rampant with drinking and drugs, so I don’t see why anyone would even consider it, ESPECIALLY for an underage kid!</p>
<p>I don’t think this sort of thing would appeal to mine at all. But obviously it really depends on th individual.
I went to Sasquatch with my youngest when she turned 18 and she was still in high school. We camped at a private campground- not at the venue, and even still she thought it was a little much. ( the 30 yr olds next to us, were smoking marijuana, she was very disapproving- i actually thought they were pretty low key) she didn’t like crowds, and she didnt like a lot of noise, she spent most of the time at the campground.
Since then she has learned to tolerate and even enjoy bigger crowds with louder music.</p>
<p>Exposure to a variety of experiences in a controlled environment( not saying *life in color *is controlled, I haven’t been so i don’t know), is useful to prepare older teens to transition into adult life, whether that be on a college campus, or as with my D who took a gap year, for worldwide travel. She was in India for Holi when she was 18, and she celebrated her 19th birthday on the beaches of Goa. Without her mom!</p>
<p>^^^This is exactly why we let my daughter go. She was 18 1/2 years old, leaving for college 1500 miles away in a few short months. My daughter is also a “straight-edge”, I figured it was better to let her have the experience here, where I was nearby. I did my research and knew what to expect. We discussed it at length before we made the decision to allow her to go. To be honest, there have been very few instances where we have told her no to something she wanted to do. If it is something we are not comfortable with, we modify the situation to make it more palatable to us, such as driving her and her friends to Miami and back myself rather than letting them drive down and stay in a hotel overnight.</p>
<p>Fishymom, i agree. You cannot control everything, but you can monitor the experience while under your watch!
As i said earlier, my D has gone to many Raves over the years, successfully and drug free. There will always be drugs at gatherings where there are young people and music. This is nothing new.
Remember the 60’s and 70’s concert scene?</p>
<p>Just a thought. Would you consider going yourself with a friend. I took my daughter to see the Rolling Stones when she was 13, and ever since we have always shared our mutual love of music. We still go to concerts together, and she takes great pleasure in sharing her concert experiences without me. It is a real connection. I am not sure we would have this connection had we not experienced a concert together. It might be fun for you and you might actually have a good time. We try to expose kids to events like theatre or other things that we enjoy, so why not try something that they enjoy. I wouldn’t do it to supervise, that would not be my recommendation at all. I would go because it might be interesting to experience something the younger generation enjoys. Just a thought…</p>
<p>Are you talking to me? Nothing about raves or the like appeal to me, so no, I wouldn’t go. My D has no interest at 13 at all, so it’s unlikely it will ever come up-not her kind of music, her scene or the kids she hangs out with.</p>
<p>I WOULD consider, though, going with her to concerts by certain performers she likes-and we’d probably have fun. As it is, she teaches me about her music on our drives to and from school, and I’ve been watching her dance to it for years in her dance classes. And our whole family goes to a musical theater performance every winter that includes music from generations before us up to recent headliners. </p>
<p>Once she’s 18, D will be away from home and can attend what she wants. But underage raves? Not happening. There are plenty of ways to encourage independence and making good decisions without that particular experience. I’m talking specifically about UNDERAGE. Once she’s 18, it’s really not my call, but if it was a scene that at 18 she’d need me to lurk nearby to potentially save her, it probably wouldn’t be ideal in the first place.</p>
<p>^^Nope. My post was for the original poster. The age to go is 17, which he is. My suggestion was not intended for the mom to be a lurker, just an observer of modern culture and what her son is interested in. I am not implying in ANYWAY that she SHOULD go. Obviously a 13 year old should not attend when the age to buy a ticket and attend is 17. The OP trusts her 17 yo and I was just wondering if she might be interested in going herself to see what the younger people find interesting.</p>
<p>There are at least 5 boys going to this. My son is not going to be happy about me driving them and would really hate it if I actually entered the arena. He’s really in that stage where it’s not cool to be seen with a parent, which does make me sad sometimes. But, I’m not sad about this event. The whole concept doesn’t appeal to me at all. I’m surprised it appeals to anyone, other than teen boys.</p>