DD looking for German/Business [WI resident, 3.95 GPA, 33 ACT, <$30k/year]

Honestly - the reach/target/safety thing is sort of - overplayed.

What you need are good safeties. That’s it.

For example, IU is one of the best language and best business schools in the country and for her it’s a safety. It’s the school that kids who apply to Penn, Cornell, etc. use as their just in case.

In the case of supply chain, for example, your top 3 have always been - since I was in grad school - ASU and MIchigan State #1-2 no matter how you rank and UTK #3. Today they rank MIT #4, Penn State (not worth an app based on budget #5) and Ohio State #6 (worth an app) with Michigan #7 (no), Penn #8 (no - unless you have demonstrated need), and Georgia Tech (no) and Arkansas (yes but it’s not in your geography) - tied for 10th.

In the situation you bring up - Penn, Michigan, MIT, GA Tech, etc. are reaches. But they are also - a) unaffordable and b) while they are leaders in the field, they are not the leaders and never have been. When I graduated ASU in 1989 with my MBA, they had more companies recruit for supply chain than students - in multiples. I got an offer from Fed Ex - and I had just a single elective.

So you have the best of both worlds with safeties. No one needs reaches - they just think they do because they hunt “names”.

But you have you safeties that are unreal for business in supply chain (if you’d open your geographical palate a bit) - and if you want to tie it to German, there are great language schools like IU. And then I’ve showed you a few regional ties in to German businesses although you didn’t click on the Alabama one (it’s dirt cheap for your student, I’ll say that).

In your case, there really is no need for reaches - because those reaches aren’t going to get you to budget.

I mean, if you want to spend $50K (which is a big difference from $30K) - then you can add a UMD as a high target, maybe low reach) but you will be over a tad, a Rochester (high match) that doesn’t have a supply chain specialty in business that i see and would be hard pressed to get enough merit to make it $50K. Case Western has both - but would be tough to get to $50K but it’d be a match/reach depending on interest shown. UF is a high match/low reach but it’s not in your geography. It’s under $50K. Lehigh has a German minor and a Supply Chain major - but $50K - nope - unless you have need. It’s a match. Purdue a likely - has a German certificate and a well respected operations/supply chain program and costs less than IU.

But frankly - you don’t need reaches.

Your student earned you the chance to save by being an academic stud.

You’ve now been given smaller schools - a Charleston (10K), URI, Miami, Nebraska and @AustenNut gave you a few more.

But your top schools in supply chain aren’t your “reaches” and I’m not sure top matters for that major - which has long been super hot. I think kids get hired from anywhere.

But frankly, you need a safety - and if you really wanted to but you have to be open geographically, you could potentially cut that $50K in half.

Take it from a full pay dad who set a $50K budget and isn’t even spending that between two kids - your kids can do just fine - if they have the grit and persistence to make it happen. My turned down a top engineering school with merit for Alabama (wanted his own dorm room) and couldn’t get his phone to stop ringing for interviews in the Fall and is in a work cohort with kids from the same school he turned down. And my kid at Charleston interned for our state (Tennessee this summer) and is in the DC program in the fall and is going to work for one of the leading think tanks). And she chose it over 16 other acceptances and this school ranked 16 of the 17 she got into…she just loved the city.

So you don’t need reaches - you need to hit your goals - and the first goal is financial - and you’ve got lots of chances to achieve or even crush that goal.

And you can thank your daughter for allowing that to happen!!!

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