<p>Mini, wait, you’re not factoring in that Dartmouth has it’s own ski hill. Priceless.</p>
<p>Maybe for $188k, you could BUY a ski hill (or a really nice timeshare next to one. ;))</p>
<p>I love snow, as long as it is 80 degrees at the same time.</p>
<p>not everyone pays full freight. Keep the options open; Those merit scholarships and institutional awards are awesome.</p>
<p>Dartmouth has neither merit scholarships nor institutional awards (they also claim not to have athletic scholarships, though I sometimes wonder…)</p>
<p>If you need any proof there are no athletic scholarships, check the football team’s stats. The last head of admissions was run off for not supporting bending for athletes, within a few years we should see if the new Director has a different disposition.</p>
<p>Well, things just got a bit more complicated.</p>
<p>Vanderbilt coach emailed S and asked if he was interested in walking on…of course that is dependent on S getting accepted.</p>
<p>Well…its 80 degrees here…have to rummage through the closet for the warm clothes…
temperatures in Hanover expected to ba high of 15 on Friday!</p>
<p>yikes.</p>
<p>hmom</p>
<p>I researched the team history and read all about that Dean…he wrote a letter to Swarthmore several years back basically congratulating the school on dropping football as a sport. Many Dartmouth alum were not exactly thrilled. Needless to say, I think that incident took a major toll on recruiting and general attitudes.</p>
<p>If you look deeper at the current team, you will see that many of the kids that started this past year were freshman and sophomores…kids that Buddy Teevens recruited.</p>
<p>It takes time to turn around a program.</p>
<p>I can guarantee one thing…Big Green will only improve in the years ahead. </p>
<p>And lets not forget, Dartmouth still holds the most Ivy League championships.</p>
<p>“If you need any proof there are no athletic scholarships, check the football team’s stats…”</p>
<p>Hey, that could be said of the University of Washington. And the flip side, check my alma mater…:rolleyes:</p>
<p>I am not an athlete. None of my kids are athletes. BUT please explain something to me. If this is a GIFTED football player, why is he being asked to be a walk on? Why isn’t he being recruited by a top football school? I don’t get it.</p>
<p>In reply, mini, I don’t know what his odds are getting into Dartmouth as a recruited athlete.</p>
<p>All I know is we met w/ the coaches, he applied, and we are going up on an official visit.</p>
<p>Just trying to work out the issues beforehand.</p>
<p>thumper</p>
<p>here is a little math.</p>
<p>95% of kids who play Pop Warner football in middle school never start Varsity in HS
95% of kids who start Varsity Football in HS never play football again. anywhere.
not Division I, not Division I-AA, Division II, Division III or NAIA.
99% of kids who play college football never play football again.</p>
<p>so having opportunities open up to play college football means an athlete is gifted…it doesn’t make that athlete world-class. </p>
<p>The walk-on opportunities are for top-tier D-1 programs, not the other programs.</p>
<p>jd, I work with a lot of guys who went to Dartmouth in the 70’s and 80’s when there was a winning team and football was a big deal there. They are determined to bring football back in a big way. I mean this quite seriously. The football coach, formerly Stanford, is being greatly supported and they just brought back what was the football fraternity. I would not be surprised to see a winning team in the near future. Harvard decided to do this with basketball a few years ago. Hope you and your son love it!</p>
<p>jdjaguar, you should become familiar with likely letters and how recruiting works at the Ivies, if you aren’t already. Plan to bring your son’s academic stats like GPA/transcript, class rank, SAT scores so that the coach can calculate an AI, if this hasn’t been done already. For the ivies, academic fit is very important.</p>
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<p>What I meant that is it is unwise (IMHO) for a premed to go to a U where his first commitment is to football (as in case of a recruited player who is on a football scholarship). </p>
<p>I think it is fine to play football (or any other sport) as long as you can quit without losing your scholarship, etc if your priorities change during college.</p>
<p>The advice to save the money for grad school is fine, but as we’ve seen in this economy money can disappear overnight. Also, many kids who think they’re going to go on to grad school never do, or they do it later at their company’s expense.</p>
<p>S has been told that many law schools want to see real world business experience in their applicants, so he plans to work for a few years after graduating from Dartmouth before applying. He will also use that time to pay off his college loans before incurring more debt for law school. Judging from the salaries offered to his older friends in his major, our worries about S paying off his student loans will have been silly.</p>
<p>things just got even more complicated…Air Force just offered.</p>
<p>going to be a difficult decision.</p>
<p>I haven’t read through all of this thread and I’m not too familiar with athletic recruiting, but is there a reason a decision needs to be made now? Is there a reason you can’t wait to see what financial aid is offered by the colleges?</p>
<p>jdjaguar, it sounds like your son has some very interesting options!</p>
<p>Air Force could be a “your money or your life” kind of situation…but I certainly would take EKU off the list, at least.</p>
<p>From a previous poster: “If med school is a serious consideration, I don’t think being a recruited football player is a wise choice.”</p>
<p>Just another point of view. Met with an orthopedist last week who was evaluating an injury for my son (a DI athlete). He said to my son, “Make sure you stay with your sport. I played football in college and my grades were never as good in the off season as they were during football season. During the season my schedule was very structured and that really helped me academically.”</p>
<p>I know this is a stressful time, but try to enjoy it and help your son enjoy it as well. He really has a luxury of wonderful options.</p>
<p>OP, Congrats to your S on the Air Force offer. My (NROTC) S1 will commission in the Navy upon graduation in May. He has a very good friend who was highly recruited for lacrosse during his senior yr. He had several good options. This young man had never considered the military until Air Force offered. He chose Air Force, has had a great four years there, will graduate in May and head off to Flight School. It is a great opportunity for your S with the possibility of having the Air Force pay for Med. Sch. as well.</p>