degree = your smart?

[hotpiece101]

<p>the thing about college is that it confers a type of security to the consumer (anyone who goes to college is a consumer). the idea is that by paying for your education right now, you’ll be paid back later at a higher return. not everyone has your ingenuity or luck, BigVick. and college is much more of a sure thing. with a degree it is assumed that you have completed some type of necessary requirements and are competent in some way, so you’re more likely to get a job than just a high school graduate (in some fields that is).</p>

[bigvick]

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“5% of the population knows about philosophy and how to live their lives.
95% of the population does not know anything about philosophy and has no idea how to lead their lives.”</p>

<p>which explains the world’s problems! i’d say that’s actually reasonable. not my intended conclusion but yes I agree. </p>

<p>but hey, i know many college grads who i like much less than non-grads. you have to remember not everyone who goes to college gives a crap about learning anything. they just want a piece of paper.</p>

<p>“5% of the population knows people and shares experinces with similar intrests.
95% of the population does not know anyone with similiar intrests and spend their time alone.”</p>

<p>where the hell did that come from? i never mentioned anything about whether people are hermits or not.</p>

<p>“You do not need college to learn about philosophy/socializing.” </p>

<p>can be true, but i’d say it’s not the rule. In general, college grads I know have their lives together, can make good conversation, aren’t just concerned with making money, etc etc etc</p>

<p>Non-college grads (though sometimes more pleasant to be around for sheer fun) don’t have the deepest insights into the world. Don’t know much about the world. Have little understanding of philosophy let alone any philosophers. Are usually swept up by the religion of their upbringing. </p>

<p>Just my experience. </p>

<p>And that’s “my” last post on this thread. (no I’m not posting another three pages like a toddler having a temper tantrum)

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<p>hmmmm</p>

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Non-college grads (though sometimes more pleasant to be around for sheer fun) don’t have the deepest insights into the world. Don’t know much about the world. Have little understanding of philosophy let alone any philosophers. Are usually swept up by the religion of their upbringing.

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<p>Completely wrong on so many levels. You do not understand how wrong this statement is. </p>

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which explains the world’s problems! i’d say that’s actually reasonable. not my intended conclusion but yes I agree.

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<p>Wow, once again very very wrong. I’ll give a example. The president of the U.S.A has to be one of the worst things to happen to this world and hes college educated and most of the morons who voted for him were probably college educated.</p>

<p>Also: Most governments are made up of college educated people and they screw up (especially U.S.A) bigtime.</p>

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where the hell did that come from? i never mentioned anything about whether people are hermits or not.

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<p>hmm I got it from you here.</p>

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Not just from books but from each other

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<p>I know you said you would not post anymore but you will view this thread.</p>

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Proton, you’re not understanding his message at all.</p>

<p>I think this is a big part your missing: why would anyone want to memorize a whole dictionary? That’s what he’s saying to you. Your focusing only on memorizing facts in school that are thrown at you daily by teachers, when you could also be focusing on doing something worthwhile and innovative like starting a business. </p>

<p>Education is a man-made thing. All through life people work towards man-made goals. A college degree? Man made. Money? man made. School? man made. What about the things that truly matter, the ones that aren’t man-made? Like happiness. </p>

<p>BigVick, by creating a very successful company, no longer needs education to make it in society, also man-made. He has money to take care of his necessities, and therefore has time to do the things he truly likes to do, and be happy. </p>

<p>As for the luck? There’s luck in everything proton. Probability. Getting into a good school takes luck. What if a college admissions officer had just read an application from the most amazing student in the world… and then he read yours. Bad luck, you’re not going to do as well had you been right after a very poor (academic-wise) student. Luck. Probability.</p>

<p>Business, however, takes a lot more than luck. It takes careful planning, execution, and a wise budget. But hey, while you were sitting in class memorizing the dictionary, why couldn’t they have taught you something useful like that?</p>

<p>Being good at school doesn’t mean intelligence at all. It often means that you fail to see the greater things in life. It can mean you see no innovation.</p>

<p>If you go to school so you can get a good job and make money, spending 4+ extra years of your life in school, when someone was making thousands of dollars through business while in high school and now no longer needs college, and is still probably going to be making more than you after you have a college degree, I honestly see the person who had the business in high school as a much more intelligent person.

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<p>This post summed up everything I was saying in this thread.</p>

<p>***I am taking a vacation in Canada for a week so I will not be around. If this topic dies when I am gone I will not revive it, if however it is still going I’ll be right back in here >:O.</p>

[MTSU_Burnin_Out]

<p>A degree could mean you are smart…</p>

<p>Or it could just mean you are a good judge of character and whenever a professor tells you his or her opinion you can slop it back on a piece of paper in a format that a professor deems satisfactory. </p>

<p>It could also mean you are skilled with temporary memorization that you will forget shortly after.</p>

<p>Or it may just mean you are a good cheater too :)</p>

<p>Despite what it means for you, it is a good notice for employers of higher salaried occupations that you are willing to complete things without quitting.</p>