Dell Laptop Purchase Tip

<p>My office provided me with a Latitude X300 (no longer made) that I’ve used now for more than a year. It’s great and very lightweight!</p>

<p>kclady–
Good idea–will do.</p>

<p>Marmat–
The $500 off deal for small business expired on Sunday, 7/10, but I’ve found that by checking every few days, you can find something equally good.</p>

<p>Hayden–
Good point about follow-up for service.</p>

<p>Redsquared–
We purchased an Inspiron 600m w/o XP Pro of MS Office b/c D can get those plus a memory key for free once she gets to campus. Total cost: $1,373.40 (shipping and handling were free). Here are the details on the system:
Inspiron 600m
Pentium® M Processor 725(1.60 GHz/400MHz FSB) 14.1-in XGA w/32MB Video, Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Inspiron 600m Pentium® M Processor 725(1.60 GHz/400MHz FSB) 14.1-in XGA w/32MB Video
Memory 512MB DDR SDRAM 2 Dimms
Keyboard Multi-Media USB Keyboard
External Monitor 17 in (17.0 in Viewable) E173FP Flat Panel Display
Hard Drive 60GB Hard Drive
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Mouse Dell 2-Button Scroll Optical USB Mouse
Integrated Modem and NIC Internal 56K Modem and Integrated Network Card
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0
CD/DVD Drives 24X CD Burner/DVD Combo Drive
External Speakers Dell A425 Speakers
Wireless Networking Cards Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915 Internal Wireless (802.11 a/b/g, 54Mbps)
Productivity Software No productivity suite - Corel WordPerfect word processor only
Security Software No Security Subscription
Digital Music Musicmatch® Jukebox Basic
Primary Battery 6-Cell Lithium Ion Battery (53Whr)
Dell Service & Support Plans No Extended Service, Support or Ltd Warranty
Onsite System Setup No Onsite System Setup
Dial-Up Internet Access No ISP requested
Digital Imaging or Digital Photography Photo Album™ SE Basic
Port Replicator Advanced Port Replicator
Notebook and Monitor Stands Inspiron Monitor Stand
Spare Battery FREE! 6-Cell Lithium Ion Additional Battery (53Whr)
Roxio Easy Media Creator 6.0</p>

<p>Got the same D610 over the weekend for my daughter, though I added 80 gig HD for her music, SXGA video, 2.0 Ghz chip & 1 gig 533 RAM 'cause over the next two years as computers get faster hers will “seem” slower. And the onboard Intel video chipset uses shared memory (I’m a hopeless male technogeek). </p>

<p>Thank goodness for Techbargains.com and those here who told me about it, for alerting me to the upgrade and $500 off which was less even than a friend who is a Dell reseller could get it for. </p>

<p>Even upgraded and having to buy MS Office Student and Teacher ed. separately ($125 at Amazon.com) it still came out cheaper than the University Bookstore’s D610. Although she supposedly won’t get the 4 yr free service & loaner, since I got the 3 yr On site Mobility Plan, my guess is, if she has a problem with it, the techie they dispatch to fix it or the replacement they give her will still be from the bookstore anyway.</p>

<p>With the money saved maybe I’ll even get her an iPod or camera.</p>

<p>How can Dell verify that the computer purchase is actually for a small business?</p>

<p>H (who’s currently unemployed) has been doing some consulting work, so he essentially has a small business. I did receive an automatically generated e-mail asking for information about the business–to determine if there’s additional business to be had.</p>

<p>mhc–
We had considered doing all kinds of upgrades to the system (couldn’t budge H on this) but, unlike S who studied graphic design, D was primarily going to use the laptop for writing papers, researching (etc.) on the web, listening to music, and e-communications. Her requirements are pretty basic, and she didn’t care.</p>

<p>Little Mother, I know you work at BU— I know zilch about laptops and have been trying to compare the University Computer bundles. My S will use the laptop like your D. He’ll get the TV tuner because then he can watch cable TV on the laptop. </p>

<p>To those who know: Do you think a 15.4" display is that much better than a 14" display for watching TV, DVDs, and general viewing? UC has an Inspiron 6000D bundle with Windows XP professional, Microsoft Office Pro Student Select software, 80 GB hard drive, 1 GB memory, DVD burner, 15.4" display, and a bunch of other goodies. It weighs 6.65 lbs., but I don’t think he’ll be bringing it to class, although he’ll probably bring it to Hillel, only 2 blocks away from his dorm.</p>

<p>My friend in IT says Thinkpads and Dell are the best laptops, although IBM/Lenovo has better tech support. The Thinkpad T-43 bundle has a smaller display and less memory, yet is more expensive.</p>

<p>kinsasha, I’m not positive about this, but I think getting an internal TV tuner in a laptop pretty much insures that the operating system will be XP Media Center Edition. Many Universities require or strongly recommend that the operating system be Windows XP Pro in order for the student to use many network resources. Windows XP Media Center Ed is built on XP Home. Windows XP Home does not support logon to network domains, which may prevent access to the full range of services provided by University’s network. I’d recommend you check on that before buying.</p>

<p>There are a number of external TV tuners that use a usb or pci card extension, and may be a better choice. That way too, the connection to the cable can remain hooked up in the dorm room and the student can unhook the usb or pci connection from the laptop more easily (and readily) than he/she would for the cable connection.</p>

<p>I had thought for a brief while getting a tuner but then, I figured if my daughter’s watching tv on her laptop, less chance of using it for work. Plus it seems like it would make tv watching a more solitary experience, close up at her desk. I’d rather, if she was going to watch, that it be on a regular tv, accross the room.</p>

<p>The options say: Add USB TV tuner and 15’ RG-6 cable – $109
Is that an external TV tuner?</p>

<p>The usb tuner would be separate, I thought you meant the Inspiron with the built in tuner. </p>

<p>BTW I just checked and according to the Dell website, XP MC Ed does allow connection to network domains, so you seem okay on that point, if you did go with the built in one, which was really my main concern.</p>

<p>But either tuner adds $ 110 -120 to the cost of the laptop, wouldn’t it be worth it to get him (or maybe his roomate will bring) a cheap separate tv? Then no problems of hooking and unhooking it whenever he wants to take the TV to the library, moving it from his desk to where he wants to watch etc. etc.?</p>

<p>kinshasa–
When I asked my IT administrator about Univ. Computers, he recommended shopping elsewhere for better deals.</p>

<p>You might want to think twice about “IBM” Thinkpads - they are now produced and owned by Lenovo, a Chinese company. Every penny that ends up in China is another help to them in building up their military at an unprecedented rate. And the Chinese government is notorious for permitting the pirating of intellectual property. Billions of dollars are being “stolen” by the bootleg selling of movies, music, etc. - Oib1</p>

<p>I found this rather offensive. You make it seem like Chinese are crooks. You do know of course that China is not the only Nation that does this. Americans rip songs and share all the time. Napster for example. Whats the difference? It’s not like America was that tite on the pirating until the companys threw a fit. I rather say billions of dollars are being “profitted” by the seliing of … Since they had to buy the stuff in the first place. If they don’t do it someone else will. Btw what is wrong with Military O.O . America is such a waste of Military resources right now</p>

<p>kinshasa–
Many of our IT folks have said they appreciate Dell’s service. Also, if you’re open to a generic system, you should check out PCs for Everyone in Cambridge <a href=“http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/[/url]”>http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/&lt;/a&gt;. We’ve bought our home systems (all two of them!) from them. They have great tech support and been so helpful in the past whenever we’ve experienced problems as a result of “little gremlins” installing conflicting software. They’ll provide support by phone; it’s not 24/7 but they will return phone messages the next business day. Their prices for software and peripherals are also competitive, especially if bundled with a system.</p>

<p>And did I mention free labor charges for the lifetime of the system? That has saved us big bucks!</p>

<p>Dell small business has the $500 0ff the Latitude line that expires on Sunday. It let D get a much better laptop then she would have gotten otherwise. Also they will ship for free. The 500 off is not a coupon but deducted at checkout.</p>

<p>Excerpt from “The Guardian”</p>

<p>My computer was conceived when I phoned Dell’s 800 number on April 2 2004, and was connected to sales representative Mujteba Naqvi. He typed in both the type of notebook I ordered as well as the special features I wanted, along with my personal information, shipping address, billing address and credit card information. My credit card was verified by Dell through its work-flow connection with Visa, and my order was then released to Dell’s production system. Dell has six factories around the world - in Limerick, Ireland; Xiamen, China; Eldorado do Sul, Brazil; Nashville, Tennessee; Austin, Texas; and Penang, Malaysia.</p>

<p>My order went out by email to the Dell notebook factory in Malaysia, where the parts for the computer were immediately ordered from the supplier logistics centres (SLCs) next to the Penang factory. Surrounding every Dell factory in the world are these supplier logistics centres, owned by the different suppliers of Dell parts. These SLCs are like staging areas.</p>

<p>If you are a Dell supplier anywhere in the world, your job is to keep your SLC full of your specific parts so they can constantly be trucked over to the Dell factory for just-in-time manufacturing. “In an average day, we sell 140,000 to 150,000 computers,” explained Dick Hunter, one of Dell’s three global production managers. “The orders come in over <a href=“http://www.Dell.com%5B/url%5D”>www.Dell.com</a> or over the telephone. As soon as these orders come in, our suppliers know about it. They get a signal based on every component in the machine you ordered, so the supplier knows just what he has to deliver. If you are supplying power cords for desktops, you can see minute by minute how many power cords you are going to have to deliver.”</p>

<p>Every two hours, the Dell factory in Penang sends an email to the various SLCs nearby, telling each one what parts and what quantities of those parts it wants delivered within the next 90 minutes - and not one minute later. Within 90 minutes, trucks from the various SLCs around Penang pull up to the Dell manufacturing plant and unload the parts needed for all those notebooks ordered in the last two hours. This goes on all day, every two hours. As soon as those parts arrive at the factory, it takes 30 minutes for Dell employees to unload the parts, register their barcodes, and put them into the bins for assembly. “We know where every part in every SLC is in the Dell system at all times,” said Hunter.</p>

<p>So where did the parts for my notebook come from?</p>

<p>To begin with, he said, the notebook was co-designed in Austin, Texas, and in Taiwan by a team of Dell engineers and a team of Taiwanese notebook designers. It happened that when my notebook order hit the Dell factory in Penang, one part - the wireless card - was not available due to a quality-control issue, so the assembly of the notebook was delayed for a few days.</p>

<p>Then the truck full of good wireless cards arrived. On April 13, at 10.15am, a Dell Malaysia worker pulled the order slip that automatically popped up once all my parts had arrived from the SLCs at the Penang factory. Another Dell Malaysia employee then took out a “traveller” - a special carrying tote designed to hold and protect parts - and started plucking all the parts that went into my notebook.</p>

<p>Where did those parts come from? Dell uses multiple suppliers for most of the 30 key components that go into its notebooks. That way, if one supplier breaks down or cannot meet a surge in demand, Dell is not left in the lurch. So here are the key suppliers for my Inspiron 600m notebook: the Intel microprocessor came from an Intel factory either in the Philippines, Costa Rica, Malaysia or China. The memory came from a Korean-owned factory in Korea (Samsung), a Taiwanese-owned factory in Taiwan (Nanya), a German-owned factory in Germany (Infineon), or a Japanese-owned factory in Japan (Elpida). My graphics card was shipped from either a Taiwanese-owned factory in China (MSI) or a Chinese-run factory in China (Foxconn). The cooling fan came from a Taiwanese-owned factory in Taiwan (CCI or Auras). The motherboard came from either a Korean-owned factory in Shanghai (Samsung), a Taiwanese-owned factory in Shanghai (Quanta), or a Taiwanese-owned factory in Taiwan (Compal or Wistron). The keyboard came from either a Japanese-owned company in Tianjin, China (Alps), a Taiwanese-owned factory in Shenzen, China (Sunrex), or a Taiwanese-owned factory in Suzhou, China (Darfon). The LCD display was made in either South Korea (Samsung or LG Philips LCD), Japan (Toshiba or Sharp), or Taiwan (Chi Mei Optoelectronics, Hannstar Display, or AU Optronics). The wireless card came from either an American-owned factory in China (Agere) or Malaysia (Arrow), or a Taiwanese-owned factory in Taiwan (Askey or Gemtek) or China (USI). The modem was made by either a Taiwanese-owned company in China (Asustek or Liteon) or a Chinese-run company in China (Foxconn). The battery came from an American-owned factory in Malaysia (Motorola), a Japanese-owned factory in Mexico or Malaysia or China (Sanyo), or a South Korean or Taiwanese factory in either of those two countries (SDI or Simplo). The hard-disk drive was made by an American-owned factory in Singapore (Seagate), a Japanese-owned company in Thailand (Hitachi or Fujitsu), or a Japanese-owned factory in the Philippines (Toshiba). The CD/DVD drive came from a South Korean-owned company with factories in Indonesia and the Philippines (Samsung); a Japanese-owned factory in China or Malaysia (NEC); a Japanese-owned factory in Indonesia, China, or Malaysia (Teac); or a Japanese-owned factory in China (Sony).</p>

<p>The notebook carrying bag was made by either an Irish-owned company in China (Tenba) or an American-owned company in China (Targus, Samsonite or Pacific Design). The power adaptor was made by either a Thai-owned factory in Thailand (Delta) or a Taiwanese, Korean or American-owned factory in China (Liteon, Samsung or Mobility). The power cord was made by a British-owned company with factories in China, Malaysia and India (Volex). The removable memory stick was made by either an Israeli-owned company in Israel (M-System) or an American-owned company with a factory in Malaysia (Smart Modular).</p>

<p>This supply chain symphony - from my order over the phone to production to delivery to my house - is one of the wonders of what I have called the flat world.</p>

<p>“We have to do a lot of collaborating,” said Hunter. “Michael [Dell] personally knows the CEOs of these companies, and we are constantly working with them on process improvements and real-time demand/supply balancing.”</p>

<p>Demand shaping goes on constantly, said Hunter. What is “demand shaping”? It works like this: at 10am Austin time, Dell discovers that so many customers have ordered notebooks with 40-gigabyte hard drives since the morning, its supply chain will run short in two hours. That signal is automatically relayed to Dell’s marketing department and to Dell.com and to all the Dell phone operators taking orders.</p>

<p>If you happen to call to place your Dell order at 10.30am, the Dell representative will say to you, “Tom, it’s your lucky day! For the next hour we are offering 60-gigabyte hard drives with the notebook you want - for only $10 more than the 40-gig drive. And if you act now, Dell will throw in a carrying case along with your purchase, because we so value you as a customer.” In an hour or two, using such promotions, Dell can reshape the demand for any part of any notebook or desktop to correspond with the projected supply in its global supply chain.</p>

<p>Picking up the story of my notebook, on April 13, at 11.29am, all the parts had been plucked from the just-in-time inventory bins in Penang, and the computer was assembled there by A Sathini, a team member “who manually screwed together all of the parts from kitting as well as the labels needed for Tom’s system,” said Dell in their production report to me. “The system was then sent down the conveyor to go to burn, where Tom’s specified software was downloaded.” Dell has huge server banks stocked with the latest in Microsoft, Norton Utilities, and other popular software applications, which are downloaded into each new computer according to the specific tastes of the customer.</p>

<p>“By 2.45pm, Tom’s software had been successfully downloaded, and [was] manually moved to the boxing line. By 4.05pm, Tom’s system [was] placed in protective foam and a shuttle box, with a label, which contains his order number, tracking code, system type, and shipping code. By 6.04pm, Tom’s system had been loaded on a pallet with a specified manifest, which gives the Merge facility visibility to when the system will arrive, what pallet it will be on (out of 75+ pallets with 152 systems per pallet), and to what address Tom’s system will ship. By 6.26pm, Tom’s system left [the Dell factory] to head to the Penang, Malaysia airport.”</p>

<p>Six days a week Dell charters a China Airlines 747 out of Taiwan and flies it from Penang to Nashville via Taipei. Each 747 leaves with 25,000 Dell notebooks that weigh altogether 110,000kg. It is the only 747 that ever lands in Nashville, except for Air Force One, when the president visits. “By April 15 2004, at 7.41am, Tom’s system arrived at [Nashville] with other Dell systems from Penang and Limerick. By 11.58am, Tom’s system [was] inserted into a larger box, which went down the boxing line to the specific external parts that Tom had ordered.”</p>

<p>That was 13 days after I’d ordered it. My computer was delivered to Bethesda, outside Washington DC, on April 19 2004.</p>

<p>It is possible to purchase from Dell’s Small Biz site even though I don’t own a business or work for one?</p>

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<p>yes! I have done it twice. I just list my name as my company name. Even the rebate was no problem. Check was made out to my name, not my “company” name.<br>
This is an old thread!!! :)</p>