Democrats Cave in Again :(

<p>Caning should stiffen up some spines too :)</p>

<p>I normally don’t believe in corporal punishment, but some people deserve it.</p>

<p>As for simplistic problem solving, this is the reason I’ll never enter politics. Half the people are unhappy with you no matter what. I’m just frustrated by the fact that congress can’t think outside the box and won’t stand up to bullies like Bush, seeing as how they have the power of the purse and all. The power to cut off money is a VERY powerful tool in getting people to answer to you.</p>

<p>If you worry too much about people not liking you, you probably won’t last in politics. Goes with the territory. The good news is that 25 percent of the public will like <em>anyone</em>…look at Nixon after Watergate.</p>

<p>The solution here is to not issue ANY checks, blank or otherwise.</p>

<p>You’re right, ninja. It was well over $6 million. Broke Kerry’s fundraising record.</p>

<p>Check this out - awesome!</p>

<p>[YouTube</a> - Austin Tea Party / Ron Paul rally 12-16-2007](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvGS12EoZUE]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvGS12EoZUE)</p>

<p>As this video, and the fundraising, and the hugely successful internet campaign show: The rules of the game have changed. Conventional polling underestimates the power of the PEOPLE. Thanks to the internet, which has never been fully utilized in previous elections, the game has changed…</p>

<p>"I’ll make book about Iraq, Barrons: the question has always been, who controls Iraq and under what circumstances. A transient downturn in carbombs isn’t an indicator of “victory.”</p>

<p>The Pew Center reports that of the 1.5 million Iraqi refugees in Syria, fully a third of them - 500,000 - left Baghdad AFTER the start of the so-called “surge” (read: ethnic cleansing). Most of them were among the best educated of all Iraqis - doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers. General Betrayus is handing the country to the most fundamentalist elements in Iraqi society.</p>

<p>Whatever Mini. Your group of voters is so "mini"scule that it does not even register in the polls. Stable and relatively peaceful under whatever circumstances is something many will accept as worth the continued effort in light of the investment to date.</p>

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Mini, can you provide a link to that. I can’t find it and don’t think your assertion is correct. Thanks.</p>

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<p>We’ll see if they step up to the plate. They’ve already dissapointed when they allowed the Hebrew Hammer of Torture, Mukassey, to be appointed.</p>

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That’s telling of your opinions that 1.5 million refugees and hundreds of thousands dead are acceptable circumstances. I wonder if Iraqis were Christian or European those would be acceptable circumstances. Oh I forgot what the mode of thought is on your side. “They’re infidels and they are going to Hell anyway, so why bother?”</p>

<p>gotta, it’s hard to figure out your views. Some of your comments seem rather random and don’t jive with others. You’ve expressed a lot of distaste and cynicism but I’m unclear about what direction you think the country should go in.</p>

<p>Just wondering, if you care to answer.</p>

<p>Mini, can you provide a link to that. I can’t find it and don’t think your assertion is correct. Thanks.</p>

<p>Happy to oblige. Here’s one of the news article about the Betrayus ethnic cleansing (there are many others):</p>

<p>[Politics</a> - Grim past, dim future for Iraqi exiles in Syria - sacbee.com](<a href=“http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/569078.html]Politics”>http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/569078.html)
<a href=“Iraqi refugees report torture – Twin Cities”>Iraqi refugees report torture – Twin Cities;

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<p>So, now that Betrayus’ ethnic cleansing has resulted in more than 500,000 refugees in Syria alone who will run out of money within three months, and the aggressive, hostile American occupiers don’t want them back in Iraq, how much money do you think the U.S. is giving to Syria to support them - or to provide medical relief? (Thank you, fundingfather, for doing your part!)</p>

<p>[VOA</a> News - Poll Shows Economy Overtakes Iraq as Top Issue in US Presidential Race](<a href=“http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-12-14-voa24.cfm]VOA”>http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-12-14-voa24.cfm)</p>

<p>No surprise. People forgot about the Clinton genocide and the Big Lie of 1998 to focus on the little blue dress. (one of the reasons the rest of the world knows that the U.S. is not to be trusted)</p>

<p>Yes, elections in all other countries are about the big issues. LOL</p>

<p>Well you got your link showing she didn’t falsify anything. How about an apology for accusing others of misinformation?</p>

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<p>Can you tell me which of my opinions don’t jive with others? I’m sure you and Vyse and Ninja aren’t big fans of me because I’ve had harsh words for RP and you 3 are all affirmed Paul"iacs". Let’s just say I am not open-minded enough to let my brain fall out. Since I live in California I voted for Nader the last two times, but I never boasted that I thought he would win. And when I hear the same things from Ron Paul supporters it indicates to me either brainwashing or misinformation. Neither of which are healthy.</p>

<p>Brainwashing or misinformation? You said he advertised on a Neo-Nazi forum when that’s just not true! I don’t want to hijack the thread but I sincerely believe in more of Paul’s platform than I do in other candidates’ platforms. I don’t believe in 100% of Paul’s ideas (the environment and abortion being the big catches) but I wasn’t suckered into supporting his campaign.</p>

<p>I’d also like to hear what should be done in terms of national leadership because you kind of pointed back at Ron Paul instead of answering the original question. I don’t have much basis for an opinion of you except that you seem to be politically interested in positions that differ from mine. The fact that you’re politically interested at all is healthy, as is disagreement, as long as it doesn’t devolve into slander.</p>

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<p>I see a Ron Paul advertisement at the bottom of the neo-nazi site. How do you explain that? </p>

<p>Regardless, I don’t care if you believe with a 100 percent of his platform and I believe in 60 percent of it. I am not saying that his positions are good or bad, that’s irrelevant. I am just saying if YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO WIN you are badly misinformed or are being brainwashed.</p>

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<p>Do you want to know how advertising works, or are you just making conversation?</p>

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<p>Well, you know what they say about opinons! (Everyone has one.)</p>

<p>gotta, you MIGHT be right. He might not win. We are fully aware of that.</p>

<p>But we carry on, because the movement is bigger than 1 mere person.</p>

<p>If you think the Ron Paul Revolution is about Ron Paul, you have missed the point completely.</p>

<p>Any Ron Paul supporter, and Ron Paul himself, will tell you that the movement is NOT about Ron Paul; it is about taking back our country.</p>

<p>Nader was cool. But this is way bigger than Nader. It’s bigger than Ron Paul.</p>

<p>Whether he wins or not, we have set in motion a massive movement BY the people and FOR the people, that will not be extinguished.</p>