<p>The democratic candidates are a fine bunch. I look forward to having them in charge next year!</p>
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<p>Yeah, but he certanly ran on a Compassionate Conservative platform and boasted about his great ability to work across the aisle and be Uniter and not a Divider. Sounded good at the time. And though I didn’t vote for him, after he won I was hoping he had been telling the truth on that point. I was ready to give him the benefit of the doubt. But unfortunately it all turned out to be total B.S. He soon proved himself to be one of the most fiercely partisan and divisive presidents in the last hundred years. </p>
<p>Compassionate? What a joke! The only people he has shown any compassion for are his friends in the investing class and members of his administration who got convicted of felonies.</p>
<p>“Yeah, but he certanly ran on a Compassionate Conservative platform and boasted about his great ability to work across the aisle and be Uniter and not a Divider. Sounded good at the time. And though I didn’t vote for him, after he won I was hoping he had been telling the truth on that point.”</p>
<p>I don’t think it would have been possible for Bush to be a “uniter” under any circumstances. He worked with Kennedy on NCLB and then Kennedy slapped him in the face. I think that’s emblematic of how the democrats were always going to deal with Bush. It is my opinion (and I expect no one to share it), that the ugliness of the 2000 election made it impossible for there to have been cooperation across the aisle. I also think that many of the democratic leadership are not cooperation types. Compassion, to me, is a code word for spending taxpayers’ money. Wish I had realized that long ago.</p>
<p>As you will recall, the first thing Bush attempted to do was to form a coalition with Teddy Kennedy on NCLB. To say that Bush was the sole reason for the partisanship is a long stretch. The Dems, after Florida, made it perfectly clear that they were not ready to play nice.</p>
<p>As far as the “compassion” issue, you can’t have it both ways - you can’t say that he spent too much money and then say that he wasn’t compassionate. It was his spending on education and prescription drugs for seniors that got him in all of the hot water with his base.</p>
<p>cross-posted with many of the same thoughts as zoosermom</p>
<p>Zoosermom, Bush is the biggest spender of all time.</p>
<p>Bush is the biggest spender of taxpayer money of all time.</p>
<p>"Zoosermom, Bush is the biggest spender of all time.</p>
<p>Bush is the biggest spender of taxpayer money of all time."</p>
<p>If it wasn’t clear from my previous post, I apologize. I was saying this very thing. Which is why I wish I had figured that out long ago.</p>
<p>So you understand that Bush is the biggest spender of all time. He is a republican.</p>
<p>The last 3 republican presidents were all big spenders…Reagan, Bush and Bush.</p>
<p>How many republican presidents have to be large spenders before you think, hey, maybe the republican rhetoric doesn’t match the reality?</p>
<p>“So you understand that Bush is the biggest spender of all time. He is a republican.”</p>
<p>How many times would you like me to say the same thing before you stop beating that poor horse? Do you really think I’m so stupid and uninformed that I can’t be responsible for my own posts? I refer you back to post 166, which I don’t think is as ambiguous as the other time I said that I think Bush is a spendthrift with my money in this thread. Not only have I said it in this thread, I’ve said this particular thing repeatedly since I joined CC. There is a major train of documentation of what I think of President Bush in certain areas.</p>
<p>Zoosermom, it’s not just Bush.</p>
<p>The last 3 republican presidents were all big spenders…Reagan, Bush and Bush.</p>
<p>How many republican presidents have to be large spenders before you think, hey, maybe the republican rhetoric doesn’t match the reality?</p>
<p>“How many republican presidents have to be large spenders before you think, hey, maybe the republican rhetoric doesn’t match the reality?”</p>
<p>That might be true under circumstances where the alternative would be fiscal responsibility. Unfortunately, all I can do is vote on the best available options. That would NEVER be democrats on the issue of fiscal responsibility. But you are right about rhetoric matching actions. Which is why I would never vote for Hillary Clinton, she of the “we’re going to take from you for the common good.”</p>
<p>Don’t have to vote for Hillary Clinton. I might not vote for her either.</p>
<p>“That might be true under circumstances where the alternative would be fiscal responsibility. Unfortunately, all I can do is vote on the best available options. That would NEVER be democrats on the issue of fiscal responsibility.”</p>
<p>I don’t see the facts that would support this.</p>
<p>I don’t think there are any.</p>
<p>I’m not saying the democrats would be better fiscal conservatives, but there is no proof that the republicans are better fiscal conservatives despite all the rhetoric.</p>
<p>I think they both spend too much. I would prefer they both spend less.</p>
<p>Because that doesn’t seem possible, and they are both going to spend my money, I look at who I would rather be recipients of that money.</p>
<p>What works best fiscally that I see is a democrat president and a republican congress. But the data points are so tiny.</p>
<p>I’m looking at Bush and Charles Schwab, and a few others right now talking about the stimulus plan and I can just puke.</p>
<p>Taxes are your biggest concern? Tax rates?</p>
<p>"I don’t see the facts that would support this.</p>
<p>I don’t think there are any."</p>
<p>I expressed my opinion. I don’t think there’s any reason for the tone of your posts. Is it really not possible for you to discuss without attacking? </p>
<p>As far the recipients of my money, I want it to be me. I don’t want anyone else’s, just the money that my husband and I work so darn hard for. I think the stimulus package is just as horrible as you do, by the way, and I think it’s going to get worse. The person I’d most like to slap in in the head (V-8 commercial) is my own Senator Schumer.</p>
<p>What bugs me is I see talk of fiscal conservatism that doesn’t exist in reality.</p>
<p>I want low taxes and tax rates too.</p>
<p>I am tired of the republicans saying they are the fiscally conservative party when it is untrue.</p>
<p>I am really tired of the republicans not being fiscally conservative.</p>
<p>Sorry.</p>
<p>I do want low taxes and low tax rates, so although I can’t see myself voting for a republican, I haven’t ruled it out.</p>
<p>Senator Schumer makes me sick too…just not as much as Bush.</p>
<p>"I am really tired of the republicans not being fiscally conservative.</p>
<p>Sorry."</p>
<p>I feel the same way because I actually have expectations for republicans. Which is why I’m even angrier and more hostile when republicans spend my money like they’re entitled and like I didn’t work my butt off to earn it. I have no hope for democrats because entitlements are their core, and I do think that Senator Clinton is, at heart, something of a Marxist. Fine if that’s what you are, but it’s not what I want. I couldn’t ever see myself voting for a democrat at the national level. I do think, however, that several local democrats do a wonderful job.</p>
<p>Do you want social security and medicare cut?</p>
<p>Which entitlements do you want eliminated?</p>
<p>The war-making entitlement, and the Halliburton subsidy. ;)</p>
<p>“Do we know if those blacks and college-educated elites (can blacks be elites? The quote wasn’t clear on that.) are cretins who get THEIR news from Olbermann and Matthews?”</p>
<p>Oh, yes–there are plenty of black elites. Just like the “white elites” (and any other color you choose) … if they’re liberal and educated, the slavering ditto-heads will term them “elite.”</p>
<p>"Do you want social security and medicare cut?</p>
<p>Which entitlements do you want eliminated?"</p>
<p>There are changes that could be made without “cuts.” But of course you know that. Why do I even try to discuss and converse with liberals? </p>
<p>If I were in charge of the budget (I’ve said this before), first and foremost I’d stop any public funds for people in this country illegally. After that was shaken out, I’d take a look see at other things. </p>
<p>So Mini, what company(ies) do you propose do Halliburton’s job? Or would you like to create a governmental bureaucracy to do that?</p>
<p>" if they’re liberal and educated, the slavering ditto-heads will term them “elite.”</p>
<p>Fundingfather, why is there no courtesy on the other side? I’d love to hear your theory on that.</p>
<p>“So Mini, what company(ies) do you propose do Halliburton’s job? Or would you like to create a governmental bureaucracy to do that?”</p>
<p>Why are we giving defense contracts to Dubai-based corporations?</p>