<p>Well, he did take over an entire school system.</p>
<p>Maybe she had designs on higher office from the first, and acted accordingly. But wait, it seems to me that I’ve heard that that’s a bad thing.</p>
<p>barrons, the issue isn’t whether the guy deserved to be fired or not, its the circumvention of the process, using her power as governor to try to force the guy out AFTER the matter had already been resolved through the normal disciplinary process. You don’t use public office to pursue personal vendettas – it is illegal & unethical. It is particularly pertinent because this person has cast herself in the role of a “reformer” – yet she didn’t have the common sense to go through proper channels when she was in power. </p>
<p>But more importantly, it goes to the question of McCain’s judgment. How could anyone in good faith name propose someone as a vice presidential candidate when there is an ongoing, unresolved ethics investigation which was instigated within the first 18 months after the person took office? This makes about as much sense as Obama picking the mayor of Detroit as his running mate. The right wing is all over Obama for paying full value to buy a strip of land adjoining his own property from a real estate investor then under investigation – and yet McCain would pick a VP candidate under an ongoing cloud of suspicion? I mean, this thing is backed up with tape recorded conversations and emails – not a good time to tap someone for the 2nd highest office in the country.</p>
<p>Where are those conversations and emails Calmom?</p>
<p>Calmom:</p>
<p>The article linked quotes a waitress named “Lucille”, who askes that her last name not be used, and who accuses Palin of using racist words - ??? It seems to me that such an article belongs in a newspaper by the checkout stand in a grocery store (in a rag which comfortably combines libel with stories of bat babies and aliens abducting Elvis).</p>
<p>I think that Palin may be setting new records for inspiring slander and libel. My only guess is that she must have the libs very, very scared.</p>
<p>Maybe I should go public with my “true story” of a waitress named Ethel. Apparently, she was a close confidant of Palin’s - went with her everywhere. She asked that I not use her name. Anyway, Ethel swears that Palin is the most compassionate person she has ever met. Additionally, Ethel used to be very close to the Obama’s. Both of them. Stay tuned for the next installment when I share all she said that she heard the Obamas say when no one else was around. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Sounds pretty ridiculous, doesn’t it? I can’t believe that people publish this stuff, and unlike me, they are actually serious.</p>
<p>Regarding Palin and the “investigation”, I have found that when people try to clean house (and end up really doing something - unlike Nancy Pelosi who must have meant an actual residence) they often make some folks very angry. I don’t think you can clean up corruption without getting some slander, litigation, or even death threats thrown your way. Just ask Rudy Guliani.</p>
<p>Seems to me that Sarah Palin is exactly what we need in Washington, and McCain’s judgement was excellent in choosing her.</p>
<p>Lot of people hated Rudy. Lot of people like Mike.</p>
<p>The homeless are making camps in Times Square again, crime by the mentally ill is up, and traffic is a disaster. But, hey, we’ve got those spiffy new planters right in the middle of Broadway and Seventh Avenue.</p>
<p>Which is better.</p>
<p>You know, I was just thinking about Palin having the nerve to shake up the city she managed by putting some new people in place. How dare she disrupt the status quo, and prevent people from being on the public payroll for life once they are on the “in”.</p>
<p>Oh Rudy was way worse, Zoosermom. He was really terrible. It was so fun before he came and shook things up, to feel like you were going to vomit every time you tried to walk through the Port Authority neighbothood in order to get to your job. The best thing was the people throwing the dirty water on your car and then intimidating you to to pay money to them in order to squeegie it off. I liked it way better under Dinkins.</p>
<p>Spidey, then come on and have lunch with me 'cause the Squeege Guys are back in town!!</p>
<p>Oh noooooooooooooooooo!</p>
<p>What about me? Can I come to lunch too? ???</p>
<p>zoosermom, re post #124 – the Washington Post has been covering the developments of the “troopergate” investigation pretty well, including publishing the emails that Sarah Palin sent, which were released in the past couple of days.</p>
<p>
z, a librarian as a political appointee seems bizarre. What is your source that they were polical appointees? Thanks.</p>
<p>How dare someone who actually lives or works in New York have an opinion on Rudy! I’m a Kentuckian, so I oughta KNOW what kind of mayor he was. A bad one. ;)</p>
<p>Vossron: Here is one of the places I took that information from. There was another and I’ll hunt it down for you.
[Palin</a> pressured Wasilla librarian: Gov. Sarah Palin | adn.com](<a href=“http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html]Palin”>http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html)</p>
<p>[Palin</a> E-Mails in Troopergate Revealed, Washington Post: Messages Criticize Investigation Into Ex-Brother-In-Law For Not Firing Him - CBS News](<a href=“http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/politics/washingtonpost/main4415043.shtml]Palin”>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/politics/washingtonpost/main4415043.shtml)</p>
<p>Here is info about the emails. Lot more nuanced than what is being presented. I’d like to say that I wouldn’t want to have been in Governor Palin’s situation. She’s still a human being and it must have been terrifying.</p>
<p>Hindoo, you want a bad mayor, I give you Michael Bloomberg.
No, really. He’s yours.</p>
<p>z, thanks. There’s nothing there that says, e.g., that the librarian was a political appointee. It says that the previous mayor hired the librarian (something mayors do), but not that he fired the previous one when he took office. </p>
<p>This whole notion of testing a librarian’s loyalty to the new mayor is sickening. Are these the kind of values we want in any elected official?</p>
<p>This is Alberto Gonzales all over again. No change.</p>
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I didn’t say that he did.</p>
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I think cleaning house is a good thing. Not everyone will see the same set of facts in the same way. I think it’s realy great that we are having this conversation so courteously.</p>
<p>But if he <em>had</em> fired the previous librarian, it would be evidence that the librarian was a political appointee; as it is, I see none, contrary to your claim. That’s all.</p>
<p>Well, I prefer librarians and similar officials to be hired on the basis of competency rather than political loyalty. We do see things differently, and courteously, too!</p>