Did atrocious on the SAT; SAT Optional Suggestions?

<p>I’ve seen that that thread before, but thanks for sharing it. I liked Pitzer because of the consortium and got a good vibe. I knew it was small, but figured there would be more students to become friends with since there is the consortium. When applying to Pitzer, I would think that they would deny me if they thought it would be too challenging.</p>

<p>I really like Knox College for several reasons. I love how they have a 3-3 academic calender. The short trimesters are only 10 weeks each. You also get a long winter break at the end of November. You only take 3 classes a semester. I think that is perfect honestly. I would love to focus all my time on 3 classes instead of 5. However on the downside the classes will be going faster then the normal college class. Lawrence U is on the quarter system which I like as well. I like the fact that I won’t forget as much information by finals because the term is shorter. </p>

<p>Wheaton College also seems like a good fit. It is not that far from Providence and Rhode Island. I like the overall feel of the campus. Hobart is also another top choice. I love the variety of different majors. I may be interested in their Critical Social Studies or Media and Society majors. The only bad thing about Geneva and Galesburg is that they may be too rural, but Knox seems to offer many activities to do while on campus. Knox, Hobart, and Wheaton are my top choices right now.</p>

<p>And if I take off the schools everyone suggested, my new list would include:
Wheaton College (MA)
Hobart and William Smith
Knox College
Lawrence U
Clark U
Ohio Wesleyan
College of Wooster
Beloit College
New College of Florida
Muhlenberg College
Valdosta State
GCSU
U Minn- Morris </p>

<p>A lot of these schools aren’t SAT Optional, so that is the only bad thing. I def feel like these schools are better fits, but haven’t added them because of my SAT scores. I really don’t think they will deny just based on my SAT Scores though. Liberal Arts Colleges tend to have a more holistic admissions. New College of Florida isn’t far from my grandparents, so that’s one reason I would add it. I also know the area very well. Morris may still be too rural. It’s 3 hours from the Saint Paul and not far from the South Dakota/North Dakota border. U Maryland is another school I can add and get instate tuition based on the Academic Common Market, but I don’t think I would get in. And even though Sarah Lawrence is the most out there, I love how the academics are set up. Muhlenberg has a large % of Jews/Catholics which I actually like. I love having religious diversity which is something I do not have at my current school. My dad is Jewish and mom is Catholic (I’m Catholic), so I like to have more people to relate to.</p>

<p>earlycollege,
just something to consider with respect to your safeties with late application dates–they may have late application dates, but they may not have lots of late application spaces in their freshman class. So as long as you are getting out your applications in the fall, get these out too…it’s not much extra work, and the extra costs are a drop in the bucket compared to what college is going to cost anyway! And it’s nice to have peace of mind when the early acceptances from safeties are in your pocket–and nice to have choices, academic, social , and financial…when you are considering all of your alternatives at the end of the process. Even if you end up at a safely school, it’s nice to have a choice among safeties.</p>

<p>At my childrens’ high school, everyone with a GPA of 3.6 and above was accepted to Wheaton. I have visited three times and have known people who have gone there over the years. Nice school. Also, they are truly test-optional, your application is absolutely not negatively impacted by not sending scores. Not sure about FA, though.</p>

<p>Thanks boysx3. I am having the problem cutting down schools the most. I keep on finding new schools which I like too lol. It’s hard for me to differentiate some of these schools. </p>

<p>Thanks GCmom I will def apply to Wheaton.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.clarku.edu/aboutclark/pdfs/CDS_2010_2011_Clarku_fromIR.pdf[/url]”>http://www.clarku.edu/aboutclark/pdfs/CDS_2010_2011_Clarku_fromIR.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Here is the link to the Common Data Set for Clark University. Note that they checked off Test Scores as being very important. As of now, your test scores are well below their 25 percentile. Prep this summer and try the SAT and ACT again in early fall.</p>

<p>My SAT scores were in the 10 percentile. Well, on the bright side 10% of the people got the same as me. The middle 50% seemed to be lower on College Board. Maybe I should just go back to my original list.</p>

<p>Here they are:</p>

<p>Math- 430
Reading-470
Writing- 520</p>

<p>Wow. So I did the exact same on the math and reading. I am very disappointed, but I did score 70 points higher on the writing. My total score is a 1420 out of 2400, but it’s still 900 out of 1600. Just wanted to let everyone know. I still plan on applying to SAT Optional Colleges.</p>

<p>[Class</a> of 2014 Profile – Admission | Wheaton College](<a href=“http://wheatoncollege.edu/admission/apply/profile/]Class”>http://wheatoncollege.edu/admission/apply/profile/)</p>

<p>Class of 2014 Profile at Wheaton College (MA)</p>

<p>Please pick schools that are academically appropriate for you. You have talked about having challenges on tests. Getting into a school is one step. Staying in school and graduating with a decent GPA is another.</p>

<p>I will suggest a safety school for you to consider: Alfred University (NY) est. in 1836</p>

<p>[Alfred</a> University : Admissions : Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.alfred.edu/admissions/class_profile.cfm]Alfred”>http://www.alfred.edu/admissions/class_profile.cfm) Class Profile </p>

<p>A regional university, 2300 undergrads, small classes-know your professors, Division III Athletics, No Greek Life, housing all 4 years, merit aid, need-based aid, shuttles to Rochester airport at peak break times, buses to NYC at peak break times, nice friendly village of Alfred, NY. AU desires more students from OOS, being from Georgia, a hook!<br>
Many clubs & organizations, brand new performing arts center. </p>

<p>USNWR’s Great Schools Great Prices
Fiske Best Buy
Princeton Review’s Best 373
Fiske Small schools strong in Engineering
Fiske Small schools strong in Art & Design
Princeton Review’s Best 300 Business Schools
Fiske Guide 2011 </p>

<p>School of Art & Design
College of Liberal Arts
School of Business
School of Engineering </p>

<p>COA = $38,000/year for most majors, so not a 50k plus school. Rolling Admissions. </p>

<p>[Alfred</a> University : Academics](<a href=“http://www.alfred.edu/academics/]Alfred”>Academics | Alfred University)</p>

<p>[Alfred</a> University - College of Liberal Arts and Sciences - Performing Arts - Major and Minors - Theatre](<a href=“http://las.alfred.edu/performing-arts/theatre/]Alfred”>http://las.alfred.edu/performing-arts/theatre/) Theatre </p>

<p>[Alfred</a> University : Research and Outreach](<a href=“http://www.alfred.edu/research/]Alfred”>http://www.alfred.edu/research/) Research</p>

<p>That is an excellent suggestion, SLUMOM</p>

<p>Well, jym, I have a child there & she always struggled with Math, AU only requires 2 math credits to apply. She would not do the Algebra I & II, Geometry, Trig, sequence etc in high school. We had her tested for a Math LD, but she did not have one. She will have to take a math course at AU due to her SAT score, but it sounds like a math course meant for students like her, a 101 Math course! </p>

<p>You can see the test scores have a wide range:</p>

<p>ALFRED UNIVERSITY </p>

<p>Test Scores Middle 50% of First-Year Students Percent Who Submitted Scores:</p>

<p>SAT Critical Reading: 480 - 590 92%
SAT Math: 500 - 610 92%
SAT Writing: 470 - 570 92%
ACT Composite: 21 - 26 31%</p>

<p>Thanks Slumom! I know you have mentioned Alfred before to me. I will def consider adding it on my college list. How big are sports at Alfred? I was reading a class of 2015 facebook page and it sounded like football was a big deal. However my perception may be wrong. The one thing I don’t like about my high school is that football revolves around everything. You cannot have a drama performance the same time as a football game. I’ve even had swim meets canceled because of a football game. Also, how rural is Alfred? I know a lot of my schools are rural, but I’ve never been to most of these places so I don’t quite know how rural they are. If there is no Walmart/McDonald’s, that’s probably too rural. </p>

<p>Math hasn’t really been a struggle because I’m in college prep math. I’ve done the algebra I, geometry, algebra II, and trig sequence. I am really not a good standardized test taker. However, I got advanced proficiency in math and language arts in the Georgia High School Graduation Tests. I got Honors for Social Studies. </p>

<p>Do you guys think I should still consider Clark, the College of Wooster, and Ohio Wesleyan? I am probably not going to take the SAT for the 3rd time. I still like Knox, Wheaton, and Hobart the best.</p>

<p>I am still considering Flagler in Florida because it’s a good deal $$$ wise.</p>

<p>I have just looked at my SAT scores and i have a 1420 also. I plan on applying to Test Opt. Schools but how will that affect me applying to graduate school and so on? Do you need your SAT scores to apply to graduate schools and higher? I’m going to take the SAT again because i know i could so better, since its so close to 1500. I have a 3.7 GPA weighted and i have a 4.1 unweighted. I hva 500+ hours of community service and im on the swim team, and i manage the softball and wrestling teams. I have taken Uconn classes and have done fairly well. I have been on 2 mission trips. And i also go to a vocational school on top of my public school.</p>

<p>These are the schools im thinking about are: </p>

<p>Trinity College not opt
Drew University
Bennington College
Bates College
Marlburo College
Rhode Island College not opt</p>

<p>Any other suggestions?</p>

<p>Oh and i want to double major in Anthropology and international studies and minor in a language.</p>

<p>I hope to be a Forensic Anthropologist xD</p>

<p>early_college, Wal Mart & MacDonald’s would be about 7 miles away in Hornell, Target, Applebee’s, Burger King etc. All students may have cars. </p>

<p>My D has never even been to a football game, she is not interested.</p>

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<p>Graduate schools will not be interested in your SAT scores, nor will they ever see them. You will however likely have to write the GRE, another standardized test for graduate school admissions. I do not know how well these tests correlate: on one hand, those that do well on one type of standardized test likely also perform somewhat similarly on others, but they are testing somewhat different abilities and also you will have four more years of education and growth under your belt by the time you write the GRE.</p>

<p>Oh thank you!! Haha what other colleges should you suggest? For me in the mid-atlantic and northeast area?</p>

<p>kaetiiii, you won’t have to take the SATs, but you will have to take GRE’s most likely and they are very similar. That said, you might search for mini’s posts about his daughter at American University. She tests abysmally and did as badly on GRE as she’d done on the SAT. The grad school waived the GRE requirement, basically choosing not to look at it. (She had excellent grades and departmental awards.) American is probably a reach for you, but you should look at it if you are interested in International Relations. My son really liked it and one of his best friends is very happy there.</p>

<p>Wow thank you! My cousin goes there. But sadly it might be too far away to travel for school. I know it’s a great school. But i wish travel wasnt a problem.</p>

<p>I wish you the best of luck kaetiii! I have considered Drew before and it’s a great school. I’m really open geographically. I’m having trouble just narrowing down schools right now. I know many have said to get rid of American, Sarah Lawrence, Conn College, and Pitzer but it’s so hard to! </p>

<p>I have a couple questions. For recommendations: How does that work if I’m applying to schools which aren’t on the common application? Do I tell my teacher to send me a certain amount of recommendations? Does it look bad if I’m giving the same teacher several recommendations to fill out?</p>

<p>How do colleges know how your school weights things? I know there suppose to give colleges a profile of my high school, but I’ve seen official transcripts before and they do not put them in there. Thanks!</p>