Did you medicate your child for mental health issues?

These students would benefit from ongoing school consultation and work with a behavioral consultant. These folks are trained to analyze behaviors and help develop plans to address the problem behaviors. This behavior plan would become part of the student IEP, and all staff would need to understand the importance of adhering to the plan.

In my opinion, medication alone cannot solve these issues. There needs to be a good behavior plan, and sometimes counseling as well.

The medication is only one piece of the pie.

Momof3stars…not sure if you already have an IEP but that may help educate the teachers.

Yes, my son has had an IEP since first grade. The school refused to go by my pediatrician’s recommendation for testing so I had to pay to have a neuro psychologist evaluate him. It took about 4 months to get the recommendations and diagnosis from the psychologist and then the school agreed to an IEP. (I later found out they broke the law by not testing him) He now, gets 40 minutes of academic intervention services every day, has to sit close to the teacher, extra time on tests, separate location for tests that are more than 30 minutes, and the teacher is required to repeat instructions until they are sure he comprehends them (this is the thing that some teachers resent). In the past he has also had homework mods in place. Additionally, he is in co-taught classrooms (with regular and AIS teacher) for math and ELA as well is in a structured study hall at the end of the day where the AIS teacher is present and knows all of the things he needs to get done for homework so can ensure he does the work.

I am in extremely close contact with his teaching team and they all know they can reach out to me at any time. Unfortunately, a few teachers feel this is basically an opportunity to tell on my son for bad behavior. I feel like they are running and tattling to their mother. The emails always say that he won’t stay on task and that he “refuses” to work. I have to remind them what ADHD Inattentive looks like. Sometimes I am not sure what they expect me to say in return. It’s difficult and it is hurtful to hear. My son never flat out refuses to do anything (not verbally) but certain teachers seem to think his lack of participation is defiance. This is where we are at now. It’s very difficult as we live in NY State and the educational laws here are different. For instance, where my oldest D taught in Massachusetts she had a few students who had ADHD or anxiety that were home schooled in core subjects and came to the school for other classes like music and art. Our school district does not allow this. I would be find home schooling my son in Math and ELA but he is the type of child that needs socialization. He also enjoys social studies, science, and elective classes in the school setting. He has a great Math teacher this year that runs a really innovative classroom where the kids watch videos about the next day’s lesson as homework and then they go over it again in class together. My son is doing well with this teacher despite having problems retaining basic math facts most of the time.

I would love to know any IEP accommodations that have worked for other children as well as if anyone else has tried all sorts of meds and found nothing that gave any sort of noticeable improvement. Currently I have my son on fish oils, vitamins with extra minerals like zinc and magnesium, as well as a high protein/low carb diet.

A particularly devastating part of parenting a special needs child is this. You KILL yourself to help them achieve some kind of normalcy. And when something goes wrong, you receive such negative feedback from other adults – parents of other kids, teachers… So you will hear “your kid did X” and they look at you to watch your reaction as if to detect perhaps a bit of shame and you want so scream, “I KNOW! I KNOW! WE ARE WORKING ON IT FORGODSAKES!” but you do what you can to put up the RESPONSIBLE PARENT face and go through the motions of saying what they want to hear. “I’m so sorry to hear that.” and “Yes of course, we’ll talk about it with him.” And you catch sight of a mom yawning as she scrolls through something on her phone while her perfect child plays in the sunshine.

@Aspieration - It sounds like you have good ideas and are making fine progress. It’s a hard road, and I hope yo find the easiest path possible.

Some inspiration for you. My neighbors have two children with special needs. Older one, a boy, has ADHD and struggled in school. A lot of parents wouldn’t let their kids play with him when he was in elementary school. But he was a great athlete and got an athletic scholarship to a top school. He’s being scouted for the pro league in his sport. Younger one, an autistic girl, after may, many, many years of ABA, attends our state flagship, joined a sorority, and is making her way. Of course everyone’s path is different. But I just thought you should know of at least this one family that got their kids to this place.

I have a flip side experience of sorts… I’m the one doing the avoiding. Right now I’m struggling with how to respond to all of these texts from my mom friends who want to know how S1 and I are doing.

I can’t shake this feeling that their curiosity about S1 is morbid. That his spectacular flameout is entertaining and fodder for gossip.

That my unusual work-life situation (I worked for 6 years after S1 was born from 5am-1pm in an office then pulled a second shift as mom when the boys were baby/toddlers) backfired and that there is some schadenfreudian going on.

Like I tried to fly too close to the career-and-motherhood-sun and my hubris caused our meltdown.

I’m working on these feeling with my therapist.

We talk and talk and talk about all that I’ve done for S1 and yet I cannot let go of the simple idea that his challenges are my failure as his mother. Because not “owning it” feels like laziness or betrayal or abandonment. I get - intellectually - that it is an unhealthy frame, but it is what my heart believes.

Also I got my period and I REALLY WANT MY MOM. And I’m 41 and she’s gone. Good night.

Lazy/bad moms don’t feel guilty…you are SO not lazy OR guilty. Hang in there…all of your work WILL pay off. The timeline? That’s the unknown but your efforts are going to pay off. Hugs to you!

Aspieration, if I could hit a love button for your post (#63) I totally would. Hang in there. You are doing everything you can for your child. Sometimes we just need to be reminded that we are not bad parents and that our efforts are a lot more than most parents would do in our situation. In my experience a lot of the parents at my son’s school just sit back and let their kid be the school’s responsibility. It sounds like you have found a good therapist to help you along in this process. There are good days and we just have to use those as motivation to get through the bad days.

Aspieration–I can assure you that your friends care about you.
My friend’s son sounds very much like yours. It’s been a long, tough haul but things have smoothed out a bit over the years. He’s now in his late teens. Like someone mentioned above sports became one place he could have success.

Like you, she has been racked with un-deserved guilt over the years. It took a long time for her to finally let it go. She handled things better after she let it go I can assure you. Guilt takes way too much energy.

I understand about people always asking about your son but it’s because that is what is taking so much of your life right now. They ask out of concern for both of you. They don’t want to sound like they “forgot” you had a son. (after all the first question is the time-honored “so, how’s the kids?”

I finally quit asking my friend about her son and started just asking about anything else going on in her life. I made the decision to start conversation on any topic but him. She needed to talk about OTHER things to put some normalcy in HER life. I let her volunteer the information about her son on her own terms. She needed me more as an escape.

it is hard to grasp mental illness in family, friends, co workers,ourselves . I understand that. you did not fail as a parent or do something wrong. mental illness is a disease just like asthma or diabetes, you need to make sure that your child gets on the best medicine at the correct dose. it is not an easy process. if you ask me do I think in 50 years their will be better meds? (yes I hope so) but for many issues the use of psychiatric drugs can allow a non functioning person to function very nicely.(yes each mental illness is different) I feel strongly about the damage the group of anti psychiatric drug people out their do, same as the anti vaxxers. mental illness as I have said before is one of the most misunderstood medical issues and is one of the last areas in our society were scorn and ridicule and blame for mental illness still seems to be mainstream (sadly the united states is much better than the rest of the world on this subject so I am not sure what that says about humanity in general)

OP, my son’s diagnosis (executive funtcion disorder, slight ADD, depression) came very late – freshman year in college after a full-out nervous breakdown – because his symptoms were atypical (yes, another highly gifted kid) and because he wasn’t honest with his dad and me, or the few therapits we tried.

Acknowledging he had a problem, and seriously seeking help for it, changed his life. But it took a while. There were no overnight solutions for us, and in many ways I think my son will always have to take steps to care of his psyche.

We tried meds - adderoll, anti depressants, vyvanse. All made a big difference, with vyvanse being the one he liked best. Once his mood and his thinking skills were stabilized it allowed him to really figure out what he wanted in life.

And at that point, it was not college, even though he was doing fine academically. He did what his gut told him he needed to: he left school, moved in with a bunch of buddies, and got a full time job.

That was arguably his best ever decision, a totally self-made one. He told us nothing until after the fact.

Working helped him discover that he can DO things. That he’s smart and analytical, and that he can apply his intelligence in a very practical way. That he can support himself (and he earns very little.) That he’s needed and respected by his employers and coworkers.

He’s now trying to live/work without meds. The thought of chemical dependence made him uncomfortable, although he says he will go back to vyvanse if he decides he needs it. He occasionally tells us he’d like to go back to school – we tell him, only if/when you’re ready. We tell him, his happiness and health are more important to us than any diploma. I had a miserable high school/college kid, and I don’t want him back. I much prefer the confident working kid, thank you very much.

So my point is – try things: meds, therapy, life changes. Try them until something sticks, works, bears fruit. It doesn’t have to be permanent: if you don’t like one medication, try another. If you don’t like one therapist, look for someone else. (It took my son a while to find a shrink he liked and trusted.) Encourage your son to try new things and experiences. For example, travel. My son’s true recovery began after he went to Nepal for a month, and saw just how much excitement and adventure life can offer.

My best to you and your family. What you’re going through is HARD. But it’s not unique, many of us have lived it, and seen light at the end of the tunnel.

I’ve gotten great support and advice on this site. At the very least, it’s a great way for proactive, practically oriented venting.

@Aspieration I don’t have any concrete advice to share but want you to know that I’m rooting for you and your family from my little corner of the interwebs. Please use this thread to vent and know that many people are thinking of you and wishing you the very best as you navigate these challenges. Please hang in there.

When I get really down, I turn to this video of S1 explaining a work of art (google wrought iron dragons by Gustav Vigeland) to me a few months after he turned 7.

"The dragons are chained by their honesty, their power, their energy, their cruelty - because they’re chained to their bodies. If the neck is chained to the tail, then the dragon is chained down by it’s own tail-whipping power. And it is so powerful enough to use the tail-whipping power, that it is emotionally chaining itself with its strength and power.”

I’m so glad I had the good sense to turn my camera to video because I really need it to remind myself of the incredibly soul inside this troubled boy.