Diet/Exercise/Health/Wellness Support Thread

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<p>Whew. I’m glad you spelled that right…</p>

<p>You’ll have a blast with the ValSlides. Did you go for the pink ones?</p>

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<p>busdriver-- Wow, you’ve done it several times. Good to know. Were you training for something else, a regular hiker or just in overall great shape? I do have poles, which I will be using. Because of my weird hamstring/calf tightness, I actually do much better than most people on the way down, so I hope that works in my favor on this one. Still very scared! (I am looking at doing it some time in the next couple of weeks and am worried it will be a sufferfest)</p>

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<p>CJane, I have been dragged to hike up it over the years by my husband and/or father. I’d like to do it again soon, while I still can. My only advice is to get ahead of the pain by taking ibuprofen before you even start. Actually, the pain won’t really hit till the next day, when you try to walk up some stairs! Let us know how it goes, but I don’t think it’s as bad as it sounds, especially since you don’t have issues going down.</p>

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<p>Good advice. Hiking is the only time I take ibuprofen while exercising. I always take a couple just before I get to the trail. I think it does help a lot. My cross to bear hiking downhill is soreness in the outside of my hips. One of the problems with hiking downhill is that you don’t need to stop to catch your breath, but that means the legs don’t get any rest either.</p>

<p>The other tip would be to take a camelbak or water bladder if you have one. It helps a lot to be able to drink constantly without having to reach around for water bottles.</p>

<p>Oh, and definitely pak your YakTrax. I don’t what your weather is like, but the mountains around here are still deeply buried in snow. Actually, with freeze and thaw cycles, I suspect they are pretty icy.</p>

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<p>One of the guys that I play tennis with used to take it before playing (right on the court). I think that he’s in much less overall pain these days as I haven’t seen him take the stuff in a few years.</p>

<p>If I’m hurting that badly, then I don’t play.</p>

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<p>Quicky Rachel Cosgrove circuit in the basement for me tonight. 30:30s, five exercises, four five minute rounds.</p>

<p>I did the farmer’s walks with two 50 pound DBs. I do them back and forth along the agility ladder – walking (very slowly), not skipping! Didn’t fall over doing the single-leg jumps with the back foot in the Jungle Gym strap, so that was good. Can’t say I get a lot of air on those jumps!</p>

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<p>Oh, and I found a 40% off deal on the [rain</a> pants](<a href=“Marmot: Outdoor Clothing & Gear Made for Adventure”>Marmot: Outdoor Clothing & Gear Made for Adventure) to match the [ultra-light</a> rain jacket](<a href=“http://cdn1.backcountrygear.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/M/A/MAR1090BlueOcean_6.jpg]ultra-light”>http://cdn1.backcountrygear.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/M/A/MAR1090BlueOcean_6.jpg) I found at TJ MAXX a while back. A 100% waterproof jacket and pants that, combined, weigh 11 ounces (6 ounces for the jacket, 5 ounces for the pants). In comparison, the Brooks running tights and adiddas long sleeve tech T shirt I wore to workout today weigh 15.5 ounces.</p>

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<p>“One of the problems with hiking downhill is that you don’t need to stop to catch your breath, but that means the legs don’t get any rest either”</p>

<p>I went to a training session for a stair climb race I’m doing soon. The trainer said that going up does not cause you any soreness, just going down. And that you should vary your method of going down to use different muscles, ie sideways, bowlegged, backwards. I can’t imagine going any part of Mailbox Peak backwards! I always liked going downhill better, but now that I know it causes the pain, maybe not so much.</p>

<p>Those camelbaks seem pretty handy, but my husband’s often seem to get a leak in them, drenching everything in his pack.</p>

<p>“If I’m hurting that badly, then I don’t play”</p>

<p>I’m with you there. It’s not going to feel better after you kill yourself exercising!</p>

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<p>Hurting from tennis for me usually means that there’s some joint damage and playing with joint damage causes more joint damage. I can work through muscle issues but many times you don’t know if it’s a muscle issue or a joint issue.</p>

<p>At my age, I can use soreness as a valid excuse not to play.</p>

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<p>“One of the problems with hiking downhill is that you don’t need to stop to catch your breath, but that means the legs don’t get any rest either”</p>

<p>Oh yeah. We learned this when we climbed up Masada, then climbed down instead of taking the cable car or whatever it was, because we were too cool for that. Going downhill just about killed us!</p>

<p>Trying to stay in shape so I can hike in Israel this summer when we go to visit the grandson. My son-in-law warned us some of the hikes they take with him are pretty strenuous. The kid is only 3, so I HOPE I can keep up with him! What do they think I am, OLD? :D</p>

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<p>^^Probably hiking in Israel is all the tougher in summer heat. I would love to go to Masada, but I might have to do it in the winter. I feel certain you can keep up with a 3 year old, and I hope you kick SIL’s butt hiking!</p>

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<p>Bus, your big stair climb is coming up real soon, isn’t it?</p>

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<p>I have done all of the above. A lot of the trails I hike have too many rock steps to come down forwards. Once the step down is more than about a foot, I’m not comfortable stepping down forward because you are in big trouble if the step is a little further than you think! That’s a good way to do a faceplant down the mountain. So a lot of sideways stepping down. Really steep bits require turning around backwards to use the hands – a skill that is still very much a work in progress for me.</p>

<p>The problem with downhill is that it’s all “eccentric”. Think of weight lifting, only lowering the weight as slowly as you can. That’s eccentric and it’ll make you incredibly sore.</p>

<p>Hiking poles help a lot. I lengthen them and always try to put some weight on a pole with each downhill step.</p>

<p>The amount of soreness I experience hiking downhill has diminished for me. I don’t know how much to attribute to hiking more, using poles, or taking ibuprofen. I think it’s probably a little bit of each. The single leg squats I’ve been working on for the last six months probably help a little bit, too.</p>

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<p>busdriver11–thanks! </p>

<p>Yes, the heat makes it tougher…you have to take lots of water. There was a 1/2 marathon in Tel Aviv last week that was held in 90 degree weather and 100% humidity. A 29 year old runner died–I don’t know what the cause of death was, but the weather may have been a factor. They are thinking of moving the marathon to the winter.</p>

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<p>Yes, Deb, it is coming up soon. When I look at last years results, I feel like I ought to be able to get in the top ten for my age group, but who knows, maybe I’ll peter out quickly and be in the bottom ten.</p>

<p>That’s awful, mommusic. 29 years old, so young to die, and I’ll bet you’re right 90 degrees and 100% humidity would have to be a factor. Seems crazy to have a run in heat like that, the winter in Tel Aviv is warm enough.</p>

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<p>“The amount of soreness I experience hiking downhill has diminished for me. I don’t know how much to attribute to hiking more, using poles, or taking ibuprofen. I think it’s probably a little bit of each. The single leg squats I’ve been working on for the last six months probably help a little bit, too.”</p>

<p>Yes, I’ll bet building up all those muscles helps a lot. I don’t think I’d dare go backwards on a hiking trail, I’d probably cause more damage than I’d save pain. Maybe if it was really slow.</p>

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<p>CJane:</p>

<p>Have you checked out the YouTubes? Here are two from June hikes with snow at the top:</p>

<p>[Hiking</a> Mailbox Peak (near Seattle) - YouTube](<a href=“Hiking Mailbox Peak (near Seattle) - YouTube”>Hiking Mailbox Peak (near Seattle) - YouTube)
[Mailbox</a> Peak - Hardest Hike EVER! :slight_smile: - YouTube](<a href=“Mailbox Peak - Hardest Hike EVER! :) - YouTube”>Mailbox Peak - Hardest Hike EVER! :) - YouTube)</p>

<p>At least from these videos (and these videos usually include the worst bits), i don’t see anything that would stop you in your tracks. Just relentlessly steep.</p>

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<p>^It’s not supposed to be that hot yet at this time of year, and the run began at 6:30 a.m., but it apparently just got hot very quickly.</p>

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<p>Ammo trail, does not appeal - though actually we were very grateful when they put ladders on our mountain. There’s what seems like an endless section of the Camel’s Hump trail in VT that is all giant stone steps.</p>

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<p>Backwards is not my preference. But, around here, there are the occasional bits euphemistically called “rock scrambles”. Going up, it’s usually six vertical feet or so, where you have grab on to the rock with your hands and use rock steps for the feet and scramble up. It’s not real rock climbing, but it requires using both hands and both feet. I don’t know any way for an ol’ geezer to get back down except backwards.</p>

<p>Here’s an example of one. The trail starts in the lower left, goes up and then across to the right. Coming down pretty much has to be done backwards, unless you don’t want to hold on to anything!</p>

<p>[rock</a> scramble](<a href=“http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_r80o2DL7MPo/SpcruuL-knI/AAAAAAAACBM/2WynCN_6lxY/s1600/IMG_6432.JPG]rock”>http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_r80o2DL7MPo/SpcruuL-knI/AAAAAAAACBM/2WynCN_6lxY/s1600/IMG_6432.JPG)</p>

<p>I can think of about half a dozen places like this I’ve encountered on hikes. I try to think about what it’s going to be like coming back down BEFORE I go up! Coming down is way harder.</p>

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<p>Lots of cooking for visitors today. Some of them are doing low carb and had made some recipe requests in advance. Made “breaded” (crushed pork rinds) fried mozzarella sticks, roasted creamy jalapeno soup with bacon, chicken wings with low carb sauce, and corned beef and cabbage for the non-low carbers. None of that appealed to me, so I had my personal filet mignon (a la Deborah) and steamed brussels sprouts.</p>

<p>Cals 945
Fat 66 g
Carbs 5 g
Fiber 2 g
Protein 76 g
Sugars 1 g</p>