Diet/Exercise/Health/Wellness Support Thread

<p>500 calories of fruit (using Fuji apples) is 120 grams of carbs and a staggering 92 grams of sugar. That’s a ton of sugar. 50 grams of sugar a day is a reasonable maximum target.</p>

<p>That amount of fruit is like drinking three 12 ounce cans of soda each day. In some ways, it’s worse, because fruit is mostly fructose sugar which causes all kinds of health problems. I can’t throw stones. I just finished my midnight Fuji apple snack. It’s better than a popsicle or candy. But, one or two apples a day is my limit – and that’s just to maintain my weight. If I were trying to lose weight, it would have to be one apple a day, tops.</p>

<p>Cut sugar. Cut refined grains and starches. Spend more of your calories on good protein and good fats.</p>

<p>I’m safe from new running shoe temptation. Brooks only seems to make my style/size in one color and I’ve already got 'em.</p>

<p>So, my new hiking boots will have to suffice on the footwear front.</p>

<p>I did, however, succomb to [new</a> hoody fever](<a href=“Marmot: Outdoor Clothing & Gear Made for Adventure”>Marmot: Outdoor Clothing & Gear Made for Adventure). Ultralight wind breaker, under 5 ounces. This is my go-to summer jacket when you don’t need warmth, but might get caught in a quick shower or a windy summit on a hike. I have a Brooks version, which lives in the console of my car. This one is a little more suited for hiking.</p>

<p>Bunsen- wow. Way to stick it out. Just remember my friend who does 50 mile runs on his treadmill. It will make you feel normal!</p>

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<p>Well I walked right in, told them the ones I needed, and walked out. Had my old pair on :wink: I’ve just worn them out in the last 3 months… :slight_smile: Can’t do that too often; that gets expensive fast!</p>

<p>As I expected, weight gain.</p>

<p>target + 18.6, so eating those fruits did me in.</p>

<p>Getting ready to go out do a 4 miles Hill run with colleagues. </p>

<p>That will be on top of a double session of Insanity tonight. </p>

<p>Ate a set of peanut butter/cheese with whole wheal bread sandwich for breakfast.</p>

<p>Thanks for the tip of “overtraining”. A quick web search confirmed myself I am not. </p>

<p>Seems like there are quite a few people in the same boat as me.</p>

<p>[Running</a> on Empty | Runner’s World](<a href=“http://www.runnersworld.com/health/running-empty]Running”>Running on Empty | Runner's World)</p>

<p>DadII- maybe what you are feeling is sort of like what they call the “Paleo Flu” when people first start the 30 day shred. It is such a drastic re-vamp of your eating that you feel awful until you adjust to the lack of processed foods and simple carbs.</p>

<p>This morning we have a quick runner in the group. So I finished the 4 mile run in 38:10. There is a long up hill mile and our time was around 10 minute mile.</p>

<p>MOWC, that is possible since I cut the mid night ICE cream and lunch time cheese cake etc. out. This weekend will be the end of 2nd week. </p>

<p>Now I am also questioning should I do the running training and the insanity at the same time. The training starts with a timed 5 mile run to set up the grouping.</p>

<p>Good morning! What a beautiful weekend! Wonderful super moon swim last night after the sweat lodge. You would think a sweatlodge would temporarily drop weight, but in my experience, I somehow add a pound of water the next day that usually goes away the day after. But losing weight isn’t why I sweat, so not worried :)</p>

<p>As promised, here’s the link to the cyclist whose aiming to break the world’s 100 mile track cycling record July 5 – there’s a donate now button for anyone who’d like to help Active Water, which helps fund and construct community wells in Africa to supply clean water:
[Chris</a> Gottwald Cycling - World Record Attempt](<a href=“http://www.chrisgottwaldcycling.com/]Chris”>http://www.chrisgottwaldcycling.com/)</p>

<p>His coach thinks he’ll nail it, but the cyclist likes to quip that it’s his “first attempt.” :slight_smile: Pretty inspiring kind o guy, so keep him in your thoughts and prayers on July 5!</p>

<p>MOWC, kudos on surviving the race in style. However, you failed to give us a full fashion report :slight_smile: One needs to have Lulus to aspire to when historically one has been too fat to fit with dignity :wink: I’m not quite ready for Lulus yet, but I’ve graduated to a newly acquired padded cycle skirt.</p>

<p>DadII, I wish you sounded/were happier with how things are going on your weightloss and fitness quest. There are to me some little clues scattered throughout your comments from which I might devise things that are working against your goal.</p>

<p>I don’t know what you know or don’t know, so take from this only what fits, but here’s a general roundup of things to consider:</p>

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<li>Most people are not very good at guessing their caloric intake. To be accurate, you pretty much have to weigh your food in the beginning. Being wrong by just a few hundred calories can make a difference in a couple of ways – you can end up under your basal metabolic rate, which then causes your system to hang onto the calories more and lowers your effective metabolism. If you consistently end up over, obviously you slowly gain weight.</li>
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<p>If the program you’re using is too difficult to use, try mynetdiary.com – as blankmind noted, many find it easier to track and one can barcode scan products. In any tracker, at first you enter your favorite recipes, which takes some time and calculation. But it can really help you manage your goals, so I have found it to be worth the set up. Skipping this step makes it overwhelming to manage, IMHO.</p>

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<li>A lot of the foods you’ve mentioned are high carb/ “fast sugars” – fruit is a fast sugar, bread (even whole wheat, as its rarely truly whole wheat) can be a fast sugar and most types of peanut butter are filled with sugar. A fast sugar will make your pancreas overproduce insulin, which will in turn make you feel more hungry – and dissatisfied.</li>
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<p>Fats slow down the impact of fast sugar, btw, which is why if you’re actually having something like a potato, its metabolically better with butter. (Potatoes are a very fast sugar) But same is not diet talk ;)</p>

<p>Although I myself am not on a low carb style diet per se, I am choosy about my carbs and that seems to help a lot. Eg., I am avoiding all bread-like products in general, and instead am choosing more complex carbs such as quinoa, brown rice, maybe whole wheat cous cous with olive oil or parmesan risotto for a treat (the latter is not especially innocent, but it is my replacement comfort food instead of potatoes). I will have fruit in yogurt in the am plus one fruit snack, but then in afternoon snack will be something like vegetables and hummus.
People more serious than I have a lot of success on very low carb diets. I have a different, slow goal and have to consider that my meals also feed my spouse. So I’ve been attempting to just naturalize reasonably healthy choices as opposed to what he would feel is complete depravation :)</p>

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<li>Protein sources…while peanut butter and nuts are in fact a good source of protein, they are very very caloriically dense in terms of fat. While this kind of fat is healthy, people attempting to lose weight are typically advised to carefully limit the number of nuts they’re consuming (eg count them…eg I use 8 pecans per serving in my spinach strawberry poppyseed salad. But I can’t be trusted with a bag of plain almonds or cashews. I simply will not stop eating them…and next thing you know caloriically I could have had a steak…:)</li>
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<p>It’s hard to get enough protein for the kind of extreme physical workouts you’re doing when you’re on a caloriically-reduced budget. So many folks find it useful to supplement with protein mix/shakes. In my case, I do a good protein shake for lunch on weekdays…but because I eat fish at least 3 times a week, I am still on the lower end of optimal protien intake – I also use almond milk instead of dairy, so I’m missing that protein hit. (Fish has decent protein, just not as much as chicken, beef, veal etc…but it’s caloriically about the lightest “meat” you can eat. Fish like tuna and salmon have more protein than the mild fish like tilapia or Mahi Mahi that we prefer) eg. I know a female body builder that literally ate six chicken breasts a day, about every three hours, to support her protein needs when training.</p>

<p>Now, I’m not advocating that, but your energy level is a big clue that you <em>may</em> truly not be getting anywhere near the protein you need (and are overtraining) for the style of workout you’re doing, and this imbalance is making you miserable when you should be feeling great.</p>

<p>Imagine a car running without oil…that’s your body without protien. Men especially tend to “need” higher protein diets in terms of weightloss, because it fuels the metabolic functions and enhances the construction and recovery of lean muscle.</p>

<p>Signs of inadequate protein include inexplicable tiredness throughout the day, losing muscle (your body will derive its protien from your muscles if its deficient) slow recovery after exertion, lack of mental motivation (protein also fuels the production of neurotransmitters) etc.</p>

<p>So, good sources of protien include turkey or chicken breast, red meat, pork loin, tofu, eggs, edamame, cheese and milk. Nuts are pretty much at the bottom of the list in terms of protein-vs-lower caloric density. Likewise, chicken breat is at the top of the list for “lowest caloric source of protein” – which is why my body-builder friend ate that way when training for the world title.</p>

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<li>Metabolic support through frequency of eating – another tricky balance when on a caloric budget, but smaller, frequent meals, eg every 3 hours, tends to help your metabolism understand that there’s not a famine going on, and tends to regulate your energy output. That can be as simple as (just an example) after oatmeal and yogurt for breakfast, having a banana at your desk around 10 or 11 am…then shorter lighter lunch (eg shake and a walk) followed by a bit of hummus and veggies or in my case Mary’s gone gluten free crackers or maybe a boiled eg or small protein bar around 3:30-4 pm, and then ideally a lighter meal around 7 or 8.</li>
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<p>You are less likely to feel crazy hungry if you “spread out” your budget that way, and accordingly, less likely to overeat at the next meal.</p>

<p>Have you considered working with a coach to get ready for the marathon? If so, a good coach can help you sort the best diet/routine after a baseline assessment that would be tailored to your specific condition/preferences, which is something we can’t really do here. We can try to help motivate you through the tough spots, but we only know the parts you’re telling us when discouraged, and can’t really give you objective, metrics-based guidance :)</p>

<p>That yoga class exercised all sorts of muscles that apparently haven’t been exercised by my routines. Nothing hurts, just feel used! I really liked parts of it and will go back so that I can learn the routines properly, but today is just a regular gym day. </p>

<p>I got down to a new low this week (by .2 pounds so it hardly counts!). I’m up a little as usual for the weekend, but I’m very optimistic about next week. Especially since I should have more time for exercise than I have for the last month.</p>

<p>mathmom- .2 absolutely DOES count! Congrats on the low.</p>

<p>kmc- You and iDad are such great resources on the food stuff. I appreciate it. I do eat a lot of fruit and am not willing to stop. We have such good summer fruits here- especially peaches, watermelon and berries.</p>

<p>Fashion report- wanted to run in track briefs and sports bra since it was so hot, but put Pebbles Ruu-Muu over it. Got a lot of compliments on the course. Poured cold water all over it at many of the aid stations. That felt good. Hoka shoes- they seem to be pretty necessary for me on the longer distances. My recovery is just so much better.</p>

<p>Just what I need- Senior Olympics State Finals is this week. It’s a pretty big deal here and the road races are on some of my flat training courses, so I signed up for 5K and 10K. There are some really fast women in my age group who focus more on those distances, so I hope I can sneak in for some kind of medal. 5K is Tuesday am at 6:30 and 10K is Thursday morning. I’m pretty tired, but I’ll do it (unless I have to go to PA since my mother is still about the same…). Senior Olympics has a ton of events- all sorts of track, tennis, volleyball, cycling…geezers everywhere!</p>

<p>kmcmom13 thanks a lot for those very targeted information. I do need to start learning how to eat. </p>

<p>I have purchased protein bars but hate the taste of it. Will shop for protein powder today.</p>

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<p>Have signed up a group training. Simply can’t afford private coach at this stage.</p>

<p>Went to the grand opening of a supermarket locally this morning. They did a very nice job though I don’t know whether we will make it our regular weekly shopping place. What I did observe is that the average waistline seemed to be more of a problem compared to our regular grocery store (I thought that people were big there). This new store is in a somewhat less affluent area. It’s a huge contrast to Whole Foods in Boston where they could call the store Whole Runners Food.</p>

<p>Oooh. Looks like you got a fancy new Market Basket. I shop at a massive new one that opened two years ago. My wife always told me how much cheaper they were and I pooh-poohed it. But, now that I’m used to their pricing, I go in a Shaws or a Hannifords and everything is more expensive. A lot more expensive. Basic staple items.</p>

<p>I shop heavily in the produce aisle that’s been a major upgrade in the big fancy Market Baskets. </p>

<p>The downside is that Market Baskets are packed all the time. You can tell that the turnover on stock is massive. Going in a nearby Shaws is like a ghost town. Nice store, but, only a couple shoppers milling around.</p>

<p>They do have some remarkably large customers!</p>

<p>I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who gets excited about a new grocery store opening. </p>

<p>We stopped at Whole Foods yesterday; they do their own juices in store now which they were sampling. I love fresh pressed juice, but Blueprint is around $10 a bottle in store. WF’s own brand is around $7. So yes, we bought some. And while I know juice is concentrated sugar, it is an occasional treat.</p>

<p>Yup, it’s the new Market Basket. It’s the first supermarket that I’ve been in with free WiFi. It has a cafe’ area, a prepared foods section and a coffee/drinks bar. The parking lot spaces are striped wider too to accommodate wider vehicles.</p>

<p>I generally concur with your observations on the local grocery stores.</p>

<p>Meaningless comment, but Market Basket has great coffee. When I go to the Chelsea store, I always get a cup.</p>

<p>Congrats on the race, MOWC and kudos for the treadmill distance BB. Yay Mathmom! Going lower on the scale by any amount counts! </p>

<p>3 miles of walking with some kettlebell exercises yesterday. 3 miles this morning with H. So hot already, today. We had company over for dinner last night. I made turkey meatballs with a tomato sauce, Caesar salad, a ww parmesan herb bread, ww pasta, and a berry clafouti with vanilla yogurt for dessert. We munched on nuts, olive, cherries, cheese and crackers beforehand. Too many calories, but very delicious and I rationalized that making everything myself meant I was able to indulge :-)</p>

<p>Dad II, I like to have fruit with lunch. Maybe a peach, or fresh berries, and watermelon. But I also try to balance the fruit with a green salad and as many vegetables as I can cram in (of course there’s a lean protein and lots of olive oil too!).</p>

<p>I’m waiting for my “Popeye Arms” to show up… Seems every other meal that I eat lately has included lots of spinach. Eating some right now actually with meatballs :)</p>