Diet/Exercise/Health/Wellness Support Thread

<p>MOWC- my wife has been telling me that for years. Says my 1-2 hour per day of exercise is completely undone by sitting at work and at home. She never sits. Her hobby is gardening and mine is reading.</p>

<p>I will have to do better at work- at least stand more</p>

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<p>I’ve only found the abstract to the study. I don’t plan to change my supplements (fish oil, fiber, vitamin D, multivitamin). I’m happy with the results I see, whether or not any of those supplements have anything to do with it. And, my doctor said I had a “great feeling prostate” – whatever the hell that means. :)</p>

<p>The author of the study has also done one “proving” that yoga is effective for fat loss… I probably won’t start doing yoga, either…</p>

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<p>On sitting. I suspect that it is not really the sitting that is the big problem – or at least not a problem that can be overcome with a reasonable amount of varied physical activity.</p>

<p>Well, I think I dodged a bullet. I thought I might have injured myself last night, but today is much improved. Looks like it will probably be no big deal. But, just to be on the safe side, I’ll probably take a hiatus from flinging around weights for a couple of days. So that means it was the dreaded Airdyne today.</p>

<p>Air conditioning - working. on high. check.</p>

<p>Box fan two feet from me – working. on high. check.</p>

<p>Shorts, no shirt. check.</p>

<p>Four half mile intervals. I haven’t loaded the data yet, but it was decent speed. Max heart rate of 93% that I saw. Nice little workout. Got huffin’ and puffin’, legs starting to burn at the end of the intervals. Not a bad a rest day, all in all.</p>

<p>Got another cortisone shot in right knee. Doc was reluctant to give it to me but knows I’ve trained too hard for the race July 27. </p>

<p>Stretch tonight. Mile walk. 3 miles @7.30 pace. Maybe do some core tonight. My wife is taking my daughter to OSU tonight for visit tomorrow. Wild times with me and the dog and cats.</p>

<p>Busy rest day today and planning on another one tomorrow. You know what that means (if not, check out Hal Higdon training plans). :)</p>

<p>And a visit from my daughter!</p>

<p>Yeah for kid visits!!!</p>

<p>Today was a scheduled off day for running but did manage to do about 30 laps in my brothers pool - what a refreshing change!!!</p>

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Not me. Unless my doctor tells me to.</p>

<p>Correlation does not mean causation. </p>

<p>Many of these studies are so poorly designed that there is no way to tell for sure. For example, in the SELECT trial, from which the data was used for this fish oil study, the vitamin E they used was a synthetic form, with only one of the eight isomers (alpha), which isn’t even the most important one.</p>

<p>From the SELECT study:</p>

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Not statistically significant? Gee, I don’t remember that getting reported.</p>

<p>[JAMA</a> Network | JAMA | Vitamin E and the Risk of Prostate Cancer:  The Selenium and Vitamin E Cancer Prevention Trial (SELECT)](<a href=“Validate User”>Validate User)</p>

<p>Stolen from one of my Facebook friends…</p>

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<p>Or you could swim, take a pilates or zumba class, trot over to the smith machine, pick up a pair of dbs, play basketball, do a spin class, show up for badminton… Me, I like having a place to run where I can stay dry when it rains or not roast if it’s really warm. Pal doesn’t have to like to run. Doesn’t mean it’s not a good choice for me.</p>

<p>I’m reading a really funny fitness book. On commercial gyms:</p>

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<p>The person who uses the elevator probably isn’t the one who will be hopping on the Stairmaster, but that doesn’t make good copy.</p>

<p>I do find it odd that the cardio machines tend to be the most popular things in the gym, even though it seems much more pleasant to run or bicycle outside with nicer scenery and the like. Meanwhile, the weight area tends to be mainly the domain of under-30 men – it is as if everyone else is afraid of touching the weights, even though weight training is just as useful for everyone else (or perhaps even more useful for the many older people whose strength is declining to the point of difficulty doing daily activities).</p>

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<p>I think the problem is that “strength training” programs are mostly built on meathead bodybuilder stuff, which is hardly appealing to most people. There’s been so little sane stuff out there that people understandably have no idea what to do.</p>

<p>The elevator was probably required by building code, actually- accessibility etc.
Valet parking would attract people who for safety or other reasons (including not wanting to circle around for a long time looking for a legal parking place) who might otherwise not come to the gym- or join ($$$). I get all that. </p>

<p>I understand most of us are coming from a different place, but I understand the lure of a gym. Many women simply do not feel safe running or biking outside. If indoor exercise is the choice- it’s certainly better than not doing anything. Our gym (which I do not utilize enough) presents SO many options in terms of classes, equipment, safe environment, personal trainers etc. Not to mention childcare.</p>

<p>Honestly I’d rather run on a treadmill than outside. I push myself more on the treadmill and as a beginning runner I need the feedback of how fast I’m going. If I go outside, I’ll just stop and walk, which defeats the purpose. </p>

<p>Off to Pilates!</p>

<p>I have seen people walk in our doors after smoking a cigarette, exercising, and as soon as they are back out the door they have another cigarette lit…</p>

<p>I used to like the circuit equipment at my gym way back when, but when I moved, never adjusted to anywhere else’s equipment, likely because I did not have a personal trainer working with me (for both accountability and form). I also liked having access (back then) to a pool and hot tub. </p>

<p>But I can see how this might “compartmentalize” the whole activity thing…you kind of walk out feeling like you’ve “checked off” exercise :slight_smile: Although I’m still riding the short bus exercise wise, I’m betting that the 20 minute hill, airdyne intervals, treadmill, aquajogging, bike, kayak-with-river access, and the freaking gardening probably add up to more movement over the span of a month then actual gym-time might in my case.</p>

<p>My mom’s been going to the stroke recovery center with her boyfriend because she enjoys the exercise facilities (and of course wants to motivate him) Except the river, hill and acreage, she is otherwise in a position to create equivalent amenities in her home, which is spacious and in a nice setting to add a pool, hot tub, etc. – things which she’s been enjoying and that she says are a real treat for her when she visits here. At the same time, she complains about never being home anymore.</p>

<p>I can’t quite wrap my head around why she doesn’t just bite the bullet and add those aspects to her home – there’s no good financial reason to spend what might be your last years without easy access to things that encourage you to move your body and enjoy life. And as expensive as it might seem to her to add a pool, for example, its about the equivalent of a year of assisted living, so if she does just a wee bit of water aerobics daily, its quite likely in the end that she’d recoup her “investment” by extending her capacity for mobility by a few years :slight_smile: (obviously, I am expert at rationalizing such expenditures…but jesting aside, I actually believe this to be true.)</p>

<p>We’re hoping they come with us Sunday when mch goes to see the recumbent bike he’s half planning to buy – the owner lives in the US but in a town just across the river from mom (who lives in Canada). Her boyfriend is not fully recovered from his stroke but wants them to buy bicycles. I’ve suggested a tandem recumbent might be a good option for them, particularly when he doesn’t have full use of his arm. Of course, she thinks the prices on these are outrageous…(see pool rationalization…) I was bemused because she didn’t think twice about buying the guy a Goldwing to putt around on pre-stroke…so a few thousand on a recumbent seems to pale by comparison ;)</p>

<p>About 20 years ago, there was a woman in a wheelchair that came in that was pushed by a guy and she came in regularly to do strength training in what limited way she could. It appeared that she was in a car accident and had limited mobility. She eventually recovered and looks fit and strong today. We also have people that play wheelchair tennis at our club and they have to use the elevator to get from the lobby. There are times during the day when special needs kids come to the Y to workout.</p>

<p>Many places that do valet parking do it as a convenience for customers but also because they have very limited parking and they want to be able to park cars tightly without having to deal with arguments about people blocking others in.</p>

<p>I like to run outside but treadmills are easier on the knees. We’ve also had this horrible weather pattern where it’s always threatening thundershowers in the afternoon. Water and the bathroom are also handy.</p>

<p>I found a decent write-up of the fish-oil study. The regular media does a really poor job of reporting on stuff like this.</p>

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<p>[Fish</a> Oil and your Prostate - Examine.com Blog](<a href=“All Health Articles on Examine”>All Health Articles on Examine)</p>

<p>Finally, there is this:</p>

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<p>The abstract for that study says</p>

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<a href=“http://sharedresources.fhcrc.org/publications/papers/diet-supplement-use-and-prostate-cancer-risk-results-prostate-cancer-prevention-[/url]”>http://sharedresources.fhcrc.org/publications/papers/diet-supplement-use-and-prostate-cancer-risk-results-prostate-cancer-prevention-&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>This is from the same data set as the fish oil study!</p>

<p>The only thing out of this that makes a good headline, though, is “fish oil causes prostate cancer!!!”</p>

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<p>You know something? They’re there, which is better than not being there. </p>

<p>I think it’s really, really hard for people who are naturally athletic or naturally tend towards physical activity to understand how intimidating it can be to those who aren’t that way. Here I am at age 48 and I’m finally getting it together and finally feeling that these things are within my reach and abilities. Every single time I go to my dance class, I have a few minutes’ worth of panic - I can’t do this, I’ll embarrass myself, I’m a klutz, etc. Sometimes people can only take a few steps towards something. I’m no fan of smoking, never have smoked and don’t see the appeal – but you know, better a smoker who exercises than one who doesn’t. Sorry, I don’t mean to go off on you at all, but I know you’re a jock and sometimes jocks just don’t get it.</p>