<p>sabaray, I use handhelds exclusively (I tried belts and did not like any!):</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.amphipod.com/products/hydration/bottles-handhelds/handhelds”>http://www.amphipod.com/products/hydration/bottles-handhelds/handhelds</a></p>
<p>This is a good brand. My Amphipod 16 oz bottle ran 2 marathons with me. :)</p>
<p>Hydration bladder pack for me. It’s the only way I can keep taking a drink constantly. The tube is right on my chest, so I can grab it even while on the move.</p>
<p>I know that trail runners use very small versions of these packs, like this one that weighs under 6 ounces:</p>
<p><a href=“Osprey Rev 1.5 Hydration Pack- Tested and Reviewed! - YouTube”>Osprey Rev 1.5 Hydration Pack- Tested and Reviewed! - YouTube;
<a href=“Osprey Rev 1.5 Hydration Pack - Ultrarunnerpodcast.com”>http://ultrarunnerpodcast.com/osprey-rev-1-5-hydration-pack/</a></p>
<p>REI and Amazon have it for $52, which includes a small 1.5 liter hydration reservoir:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.rei.com/product/866606/osprey-rev-15-hydration-pack”>http://www.rei.com/product/866606/osprey-rev-15-hydration-pack</a></p>
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<p>Speaking of which. I went to hike the first morning this week and had 2 liters of ice cold water in the reservoir (thanks to freezing it ahead of time), but I had left the detachable tube stuck to my refrigerator door, so no way to drink!.Off to Lahouts Outdoors in Lincoln for a tube. Buying it piece by piece was going to be $31, so I ended up buying the smallest Camelbak (1.5 liters) reservoir and using the tube off that. I missed the magnetic clip, but at least I had water! I’m now going to leave a tube on every backpack and just move the bladders. It’s switching the from backpack to backpack that ends up with the drinking tube at home!</p>
<p>Some races prohibit the use of any hydration backpacks. For example, the Boston did (for obvious reasons), but handhelds and belts with bottles 16 oz and smaller were ok. Some folks who got used to running with backpack hydrations were not happy. I still like to carry my bottle even when there are hydration stations at every mile marker. </p>
<p>FYI - RueLaLa has a backpack boutique today, including hiking packs and hydration packs by camelback at 50% off retail prices. </p>
<p>Zeacliff Hike YouTube:</p>
<p><a href=“Zeacliff Hike - YouTube”>Zeacliff Hike - YouTube;
<p>The first part of this hike up to Zealand Falls and Zealand Hut is some of the easiest hiking in the White Mountains. It starts with some rough rocks and roots, but then smooths out to nice dirt trails, bridges, boardwalks, and so forth as it skirts several beaver ponds with a beaver dam making an appearance in the video. I saw a beaver, but he was swimming away and didn’t want to pose for a video.</p>
<p>The final little bit climbs steeply up a rock trail to Zealand Falls and Zealand Hut which is perched at the top of the falls with a terrific view and awesome sunning rocks. Definitely a fine place for a lazy summer afternoon. The Appalachian Trail crosses the steps of this hut, so you usually see thru-hikers. And, the hut is an accessible family destination, so usually lots of kids.</p>
<p>Leaving the hut, the trail crosses the stream and then heads up a steep, rocky slog, gaining 1200 feet of elevation in 1.2 miles to Zeacliff — a sheer cliff with a breathtaking drop off and view of the Pemi Wilderness. There is not a single sign of civilization in the entire panarama. No roads…No utility lines. Just wilderness and mountains. Awesome.</p>
<p>I’m with BB - I hate belts. I tried a SpiBelt just for misc stuff and simply did not care for it. If I’m going to carry fluids it has to be a handheld. iDad, a backpack is simply not going to work for me - any extra up top is simply too much to carry. I think if men had to wear sport bras they might feel differently about hydration packs! </p>
<p>I hear ya, The belts with water bottles drove me crazy. Even walking, they swing side to side. If a hydration pack didn’t work for me, I’d have to go with one of those hand-grip water bottles.</p>
<p>BTW, here are Camelback’s smallest 1.5 liter hydration packs:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.rei.com/product/866299/camelbak-hydrobak-hydration-pack-50-fl-oz”>http://www.rei.com/product/866299/camelbak-hydrobak-hydration-pack-50-fl-oz</a>
<a href=“http://www.rei.com/product/846097/camelbak-dart-hydration-vest-50-fl-oz#video-inner”>http://www.rei.com/product/846097/camelbak-dart-hydration-vest-50-fl-oz#video-inner</a></p>
<p><a href=“CamelBak Dart 50 oz Hydration Day Pack - YouTube”>CamelBak Dart 50 oz Hydration Day Pack - YouTube;
<a href=“Camelbak Hydrobak Hydration Pack - www.simplyhike.co.uk - YouTube”>Camelbak Hydrobak Hydration Pack - www.simplyhike.co.uk - YouTube;
<p>And, a short campsite glamping video:</p>
<p>[Lost</a> River Valley camping](<a href=“Lost River Valley Camping - YouTube”>Lost River Valley Camping - YouTube)</p>
<p>Alas, no pix of culinary delights. It was after dark when I finished cooking each night. Not conducive to good foodie fotography. And, I was hungry!</p>
<p>I can see the hike video, which is great. I can’t see the camp video- it says it’s not available.</p>
<p>I’ve always just stuck canteens or water bottles in a backpack when I go hiking. I like to have an excuse to stop and get the water out.</p>
<p>Short gym day yesterday, but at least I went, and will go again tomorrow. Today I made a jillion trips up and down a flight of stairs including a bookcase full of cookbooks. </p>
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<p>Hmm. Maybe YouTube doesn’t like Duane Allman? I got no indication and the video plays fine for me, but I haven’t checked it on mobile.</p>
<p>I can (sort of) reach a water bottle in the mesh side pocket of my backpack, but it’s a bit of contortionist move for an ol’ geezer. Recently, I’ve been carrying a thermos of protein/energy shake in the pocket. Depending on the length of the hike, that’s 16 to 24 ounces of fluid. I try to drink from the water tube constantly. I typically start with 2 liters of water and drink between 1 and 1.5 liters on a hike. I definitely am sweating out there and need to keep replenishing fluids.</p>
<p>Now we know why idad is so fit… It is the burpees! :)</p>
<p><a href=“Short Exercises to Burn 200 Calories | POPSUGAR Fitness”>http://www.fitsugar.com/Short-Exercises-Burn-200-Calories-25455818</a></p>
<p>There are a lot of people who think that intervals (running sprints, exercise bike sprints, burpees, etc.) are the bomb for fat loss. I listened to a Mark Sisson podcast the other day while hiking in which he pushed sprinting as a way to break a fat loss plateau.</p>
<p>I was intrigued by MOWC’s comments and others about using the Maffetone method of training. MOWC and anyone else who has or is using it, how does it differ from using ventilary thresholds as your training intensity markers? Under a 3 zone approach based on ventilary thresholds, you would use the “talk test” to determine hr at VT1 and training at or below that heart rate would be considered Zone 1 aerobic training. 95% of your hr at VT2 would be considered the threshold for Zone 3 anaerobic threshold training and hr’s between the two would be considered Zone 2 training. Under this approach, for performance training after establishing a solid aerobic base, 80% of your training time would be spent in Zone 1 and 20% in Zone 3. The goal is to increase the speed and duration at which you can maintain your hr in Zone 1 utilizing some Zone 3 training to push cardiovascular and muscular development i.e. higher performance at lower heart rates and the capacity to maintain higher heart rates for greater performance when needed. I guess what has me puzzled about the Maffetone method is the reliance on a generic hr formula to determine aerobic training zones as opposed to individually determined thresholds and the apparent eschewing of any interval work. What is the theory on how constantly running at an aerobic level enables you to increase your capacity and performance at that level. Is the training really that static or am I missing something?</p>
<p>Nice hike, idad. Couldn’t see the camp video either.
Bunsen, that story both makes me happy and strikes me as true.</p>
<p>Out earlier this morning - told myself I was getting 100 miles this month and of course I needed 1.4 to get there. How does that happen? 2.2 for insurance. </p>
<p>To follow up on IDad’s post, while at lower intensities (i.e. aerobic) fat is the predominant source of energy (ergo the concept of “fat burning” hr training zones), at higher intensities, even though there is a shift to carbohydrate based energy, fat is still burned and in a given unit of time the number of fat calories burned is greater than the same unit of time at the lower “fat burning” intensities. That is one of the reasons that intervals can jump start plateaued fat loss.</p>
<p>Michael- you get a little too technical even for me, but here’s a pretty simple article that Dr. Phil wrote.
<a href=“http://content.sitezoogle.com.s3.amazonaws.com/u/52133/1feb6b50312e1e2a418185d7d3413701b23b4195/original/Want_Speed_Slow_Down_2007.pdf?response-content-type=application/pdf&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJUKM2ICUMTYS6ISA&Signature=KnmoEEkdw2AAD5/lXZ8J4Rhfehk%3D&Expires=1409501081”>http://content.sitezoogle.com.s3.amazonaws.com/u/52133/1feb6b50312e1e2a418185d7d3413701b23b4195/original/Want_Speed_Slow_Down_2007.pdf?response-content-type=application/pdf&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJUKM2ICUMTYS6ISA&Signature=KnmoEEkdw2AAD5/lXZ8J4Rhfehk%3D&Expires=1409501081</a></p>
<p>Mark Allen (former Ironman champ back in my day) was very successful using Maffetone training. Most of us today don’t have the patience and race too much to really stick with the build up phase. I DO know that I have used it successfully to regroup when I’ve over-trained or been injured. Sometimes I get tired of feeling beaten up all the time, and MAF is a good answer to that. </p>
<p>Absolutely, MOWC, I can see where using his approach is a great solution to recovering from overtraining, from injuries or even as part of periodization as a counterpoint to higher intensity training. I did a 50 mile ride yesterday where I didn’t allow my heart rate to exceed 135 and it was a great recovery from the other riding I did this past week. What I’m having trouble grasping is how you use his training approach exclusively for competitive performance training. Using it in conjunction with other approaches makes a whole lot of sense. Using it exclusively is very counterintuitive and at a variance with other established methods. I’m going to follow up with the article you linked and try to learn more.</p>
<p>Argh, couldn’t link to the article. Got “expired” error message. </p>