Diet/Exercise/Health/Wellness Support Thread

I forgot. Me too. Best wishes.

Best wishes to you and your family @sabaray ! Enjoy the wedding!

Thanks everyone! I’m trying hard to keep up my good habits this weekend, hope you all do the same. I’m really impressed with the commitment each and every one of you has made to good health. That’s what it’s all about!

I don’t eat breakfast because I do intermittent fasting (about 16 hours on days I don’t run and 14-hrs on running days). I don’t feel hungry when I am exercising in early morning 5-6:30 am. But I normally would feel hungry around 10 am.
We went to a nice Italian restaurant for lunch yesterday and the bread was just heavenly, not eating carbs containing wheat definitely gives me crave, luckily (or unlucky? Lol) I don’t like sweets.

@sabaray how exciting! Healthy habits do have rooms for wedding cake! :slight_smile:

Is your half this weekend or next, @makemesmart ?

I’ve seen lots of social media about Hell Week, @Sue22. You’re a brave woman, those are tough workouts.

@sabaray
Next weekend! I am looking forward to being over with it! Lol

Here’s my report on Noom. Basically, the program uses behavioral psych principles to help change behaviors. You get a great deal of information on setting goals, changing habits, reinforcing habits, etc. You then apply these–choosing measurable ways to reach long/short term goals. There are a number of basics that everyone follows: track food, weigh yourself everyday, and focus on green food.

Noom’s tracking database isn’t as extensive/complete as others like Lose It. Foods are caregorized as green, yellow, and red. You are encouraged to eat mostly green foods—vegetables, fruits, whole grains. Green foods are low-calorie dense foods. You can eat more (volume) of them and not eat a huge amount of calories. Yellow foods are foods to eat in moderation, e.g., eggs, fish. Red foods are what you should have as a treat—mostly carbs—sweet stuff, alcohol, chips, and fats. Noom also comes up with a daily calorie amount for you (based on age, weight, and height) and the tracking device let’s you know how many calories you have left after each meal; there’s also a cool visual of the amount of red/yellow/green foods.

Noom includes an exercise component—you can set step goals (the Noom app syncs with Fitbit and others).

The part of Noom IMO that is weakest is the coaching. The coach sends text messages and offers suggestions during the week, but nothing on the weekends. Also, there isn’t any real time response when you text the coach—you get an answer the next day, which IMO is lame. I get more from reading the app info.

There is also a support group—folks who all started the program at the same time. The coach asks folks to respond to queries she posts. This component was new for me this week and I’ve just introduced myself and responded to one of the coach’s queries. Group is all women–wide age span (young and old).

The cost is $160 for 12 weeks. The information/behavioral approach has been helpful for me as has tracking, weighing, and meeting the step goal (just started the third week). Could I have done this without the app–probably. That being said, the app was good because it got me started. (I’m in the process of moving and this has kept me from lots of stress eating.)

One of the things that is working for me is Healthy Choice Power Bowls. They’re generally around 300 calories, high in protein, and are very healthy but tasty. A big bonus for me is not having to think about what I’m preparing or counting calories. I choose something from the freezer for lunch or dinner, pop it in the microwave, and get something that feels like a real meal. Lunch today is Adobo Chicken.

@Bromfield2 thank you for your review.
@sabaray wishing you a joyous and fun filled weekend.

Considering either the Hyperice Hypervolt or the Roll Recovery R8 for DH (primarily a runner). He just doesn’t like getting on the floor with my foam roller and thinking something he would actually use would help more with muscle soreness - anyone have experience with these?

No experience with those but a foam roller is a runners best friend. Does he understand the benefits? Better than getting injured.

@yauponredux
Never heard of these, sound like some kind of electric-shot-treatment to my uninitiated ears. :))
I and my swimmmer DS both found epsom salt bath to be very good sore-reliever! Of course we all love good old foam rollers and stretches (yoga for me).

I also use a foam roller too along with a softball and lacrosse ball. The softball and LAX ball are mostly for pecs, traps, shoulders, etc. Sorry, I haven’t heard of the other items. I don’t like getting on the floor either, but that’s the only way burpees get done. :))

On the nutrition/dieting/weight loss discussion, a few comments. First, if you “diet” you are doomed to long term failure. Diets are based on deprevation and are not sustainable. You need behavior change that you can sustain for life otherwise you will yo yo and studies have conclusively demonstrated that yo-yoing results in ever decreasing metabolism which makes weight loss more difficult. It all boils down to calories in vs calories out because the laws of thermogenics are immutable but it’s more nuanced than simply calories. A better concept is energy balance with takes into account nutrient values and how your body actually processes and uses the food you take in. If you eat 1500 calories a day of real, unprocessed food with a balance of healthy nutrient dense protein, carbs, fats appropriate for your body type, activity levels and daily schedule, you will lose more weight and have better body composition and health than if you eat 1500 calories of donuts as your nutrition plan. Meal timing, skipping breakfast, eating late at night, it all depends on your daily schedule and activities. There is no one solution that is right. For example, I eat dinner at 9:30 at night because I generally can’t work out until 8:00 and when I am done working out, I need to refuel. I eat breakfast because I am physically active in the mornng training people so I want to keep my energy levels up. Intermittant fasting-we all do it. All it is is having a longer gap between the last meal of the day and the first meal of the next day. How long that gap is and the pattern of the gaps depends on your goals, training needs and other individualized factors. Radical intermittant fasting can be very effective in the short haul if you have specific time bound objectives but again is not sustainable over long periods. Don’t blindly buy in to the “latest studies”. Tomorrow there will be a new study that says domething different. Instead, use an outcmes based approach based on objective measures and subjective feelings. Always ask yourself “how’s that working out”. Are you achieving your goals objectively and are you subjectively in a place that is sustainable. Just my 2 cents.

To piggyback the above comments on “yo-yoing results in ever decreasing metabolism”, here is an example of extreme yo-yoing
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/6-years-after-the-biggest-loser-metabolism-is-slower-and-weight-is-back-up/
“But resting metabolic rate did not follow the same pattern.
The group as a whole on average burned 2,607 calories per day at rest before the competition, which dropped to about 2,000 calories per day at the end.”

Totally agree with you MichaelNKat. My “calories” comment on weight loss was directed to the idea that “hitting the gym” was the answer to weight loss. One reward donut cancels out a hard 1/2 hour of cardio (not walking or a casual spin on a stationary bike.)

Yup ohiopublic. 80% of weight loss and body composition management is nutrition, 20% working out. And when it comes to nutrition, 25% is knowing the technicalities of what a healthy, balanced nutrition plan looks like and 75% is sustainable behavior change. While these are not “scientifically” set percentages, they are my own anecdotal way of illustrating what it really takes to lose weight, change body composition and maintain the changes permenantly.

1 29 53 for my 10 miler with 9 minute a mile pace. I am happy and disappointed at the same time, had hoped to have enough gas in the tank to get slightly below 9. My goal time is 1 30. DH had 8 13 pace, which is awesome considering he just started running last year! Lesson learned…I need to run more intervals and hills. I did fine on the hills this course, but DH got stronger by training in a golf course by his work. Yes, DH and I are very competitive with each other. I am very competitive with myself. Maybe consider half marathon in May, still want to get in 2 hours. Last time was 2 hours and 2 minutes.

Have been losing weight with all the running and eating the winter melons I harvested in my yard. The melon turns to water after eating, I guess :wink:

@SincererLove
Great run! Wish I could do 9 minutes mile!

I’m back from Utah! I had a fabulous time! The guides were great and we had a fun group of women.

I’m so pleased my knees and legs and lungs and everything else did the job with the altitude adjustment & elevation gains.

Despite my lack of cardio workouts, I was a strong hiker & I was not on empty at the end of each day.

I am concluding that the strength work I’ve done since July — even a modest twice a week — made a big contribution.

Hail deadlifts, goblet squats, and back extensions.

I’m so grateful I was able to go on the trip and that my body worked.