Diet/Exercise/Health/Wellness Support Thread

<p>Speaking of carb loading…</p>

<p>I’ve been on an apple kick here lately. Every night for dessert. My grocery store has been featuring New Zealand apples for 99 cents a pound (about 50 cents per apple). I’ve been alternating among Granny Smith, Braeburn, Fuji, and Pink Cripps varieties. Slice them up into little bit size pieces and it’s almost like plowing through a bag of sour gummy worms! So sweet, but only a hundred calories or so. And, the fructose is sure to top off my depleted glucogen stores!</p>

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<p>For an untrained body “bonking” could happen much faster (been there, done that - just at 11 miles one time in my early days of training). It is a really eerie feeling: you push forward with so much effort, but your legs are barely moving, and the pace abruptly drops by a good minute or two per mile… </p>

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<p>Apples and beans are bad choices of pre-run carb sources. The former has too much sugar and fiber and can lead to gas issues during running (as described by coureur a thousand or so posts back in this thread :)), and beans are too heavy on protein which takes much longer to digest, which in turn can lead to “heavy stomach” feeling during the run. Something easily digestable with lower glycemic index like a small serving of oatmeal 45-60 min before the run followed by a couple of GU chews 30 min later works for me.</p>

<p>Of course, BC might have been simply dehydrated. Or stressed about work. Or he was coming down with a bug. Stuff happens. But we had a nice discussion of glycogen metabolism. :)</p>

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<p>Wait a minute. Do you mean that jogging isn’t supposed to always feel like that? :)</p>

<p>Robert Lustig says that fructose is excellent for restoring glucogen stores quickly – it’s the one thing it does very well. The problem is that any fructose in excess of what can be converted to glucogen (either because you don’t need glucogen or because you’ve consumed too much fructose too quickly) is converted to fat (triglycerides).</p>

<p>Dehydration is unlikely as I’ve worked pretty hard on that area - that was partly the reason why I dropped down to three to four miles for several weeks and eventually discovered that the problem was caffeine. </p>

<p>I don’t have stomach issues while I’m running and the beans are eaten about three hours before the run so they shouldn’t cause digestive issues.</p>

<p>I do have some nasal congestion and am somewhat unable to detect odors that my son picks up on. I attributed it to fall allergies. My overall energy levels are very good so I don’t think that it’s a summer flu.</p>

<p>I can play tennis for over 2.5 hours but there are changeover breaks and perhaps they give the body the time to replenish glycogen from fat.</p>

<p>I don’t consider 6 miles to be a hugely long run; it’s long for me because I haven’t done it in a while but after doing 6 miles on Monday and Tuesday, I felt like I could easily do at least another.</p>

<p>The M-T-W runs were because I didn’t have tennis matches lined up. This summer, I think that I was playing at least as much tennis as running so there was a mix of interval vs cardio. It’s going to be a lot harder playing tennis as school has started and the high-school reserves the tennis courts during the day. Parking is also a significant problem. We could play on other public courts but they are all in terrible shape compared to the high-school. We could also play indoors but several of the guys that I play with drop their club memberships in the spring and resume them in the fall.</p>

<p>It’s clearly an energy issue. I’ve been going at ~1,800 - 2,200 calories for the last six days and the Tuesday was 1,776, a bit on the low side. I had 800 calories for breakfast (peanut butter sandwich, pistachio nuts, almonds) and I might have a little more (there’s a case of free Wheaties Fuel cereal samples in the fitness center) before playing. Historically, that’s always been enough calories for tennis.</p>

<p>I’ll look at adding oatmeal before running. I could always go with a Clif Builder Bar and I do buy them regularly (kids like them as do I) but they have more sugar than I would like. I plan to run on Friday so we’ll see how some oatmeal goes. I need to check with my wife on whether we have any at home.</p>

<p>On joints - the only issues that I have on joints lately is my knees and running hasn’t been that much of a problem lately. Losing weight on a regular basis means that I can run longer distances. Tennis is still fairly tough on the knees but my recovery time is under one day.</p>

<p>It could be a burnout issue too. I will most likely get a few more hours of sleep per day this weekend.</p>

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<p>I’ve never been that weak running nor do I run to the point of exhaustion. I’m pretty sure that I could have done another mile last night - it wouldn’t have been fun but certainly doable.</p>

<p>“I don’t consider 6 miles to be a hugely long run; it’s long for me because I haven’t done it in a while but after doing 6 miles on Monday and Tuesday, I felt like I could easily do at least another”</p>

<p>BC, for you, 6 miles IS a long run. If you want to condition your body to run long distances, you need to train smarter. Pay no attention to what I or MOfWC are doing; you are not here to compete with us yet, you are here to build speed and endurance so you can outrun us in a few months. :slight_smile: To build endurance, you need to run no more than 2 days in a row and not more than one long run per week. As you do this, you gradually build the weekly mileage, so each of your runs, including the long run, become longer. I will post a link to a half marathon training plan for beginners when I find the bookmark. It is a very doable training schedule for someone like you.</p>

<p>Additionally, if your goal is still weight loss, you should not run your body into exhaustion. Bodies starved for electrolytes and fuel do not metabolize nutrients properly.</p>

<p>As for being fully hydrated, here is a simple test: weigh yourself before the run and immediately after the run. If your weight drops by more than .5 pounds, you have not been getting enough hydration during running. Carry a water bottle and take a few sips now and then while you are pounding the pavement. This advice comes from my marathoner friend who ran 25+ marathons. She said she did all of this wrong (not hydrating enough, not eating enough glucose fuel, overtraining, etc.) and could not get her BQ, but as soon as she listened to her running buddies, she qualified for Boston with a comfortable margin.</p>

<p>D1 has now decided she will also train for a half marathon. Must be a bit of sister rivalry here as she has never expressed an interest in doing this until D2 started. It may also be because D2 beat her in the last 5K! :wink: D2 and H went to the running store for new shoes last night. The worker had D2 try on tons of shoes and watched her gait. She is a “neutral” runner but throws her left foot in…a little pigeon toed! Of course we knew that already. She ended up with a pair of Asics that she has worn before because it feels the best on her bunion. Glad to see these former college athletes continue a healthy and active lifestyle.</p>

<p>I’m not really that interested in running a half or full marathon. I wouldn’t consider it without losing another 25 pounds. At the moment, running is my default weekday workout. If I don’t have tennis, then I run. On the weekends, if I don’t play tennis, I do weights or work to find something else to do or do nothing.</p>

<p>The running is nice as it burns calories and supports my tennis game.</p>

<p>When I was in my 30s, I ran 30 miles/week regularly and played tennis so that frequently meant running and tennis on the same day. The tennis was typically only 60-90 minutes though.</p>

<p>On hydration, I drink from 20-30 ounces before the run and about 12 after four miles. I generally drink 30-40 ounces during the day before the run.</p>

<p>The goals right now are to support weight loss in a fairly painless way that requires a minimum amount of setup and that works into a flexible schedule and right now that is running. I could probably lose weight faster with more enjoyment with tennis but scheduling is a lot harder and it is more prone to weather problems (nobody wants to play on a wet court or on a really windy day), and the expenses (balls, strings) are higher.</p>

<p>If you want to see some really frightening logic, check out the colonoscopy thread.</p>

<p>Hot morning. Didn’t think I could face my planned 8-10 miles. Drove to the trail/path and cobbled together a route that would let me bail and shorten the run. I managed to do 9, which was surprising since I truly didn’t think I was up to it. Got a 44 ounce Sonic iced tea afterwards.</p>

<p>^^Yay to 9 miles! I managed to squeeze in a run last night, too. Did not think I could, but it is amazing what our bodies can do. :)</p>

<p>“If you want to see some really frightening logic, check out the colonoscopy thread.”</p>

<p>I poked my head in there. Yikes. Indeed!</p>

<p>2 hours of tennis. 6-3, 2-6, 1-6. Other guy was playing very well and making his shots.</p>

<p>Pretty good workout despite the noise from the high-school. We were playing next to the parking lot where the students park their cars. A lot of hooting, hollering, honking and revving of engines.</p>

<p>First day of the new class.
Love the instructor. Signed the contract pledging not to whine. I may need a lawyer soon ;)</p>

<p>Workout uses a bit of different terminology, but is a lot like what I have been doing all summer.</p>

<p>Warm up
Inchworms
Hip flexor stretch
Another stretch</p>

<p>5 minutes guts (go until time stops?)
10 push ups
20 reverse lunges
30 bicycles</p>

<p>60 seconds of each exercise followed by 60 secs rest fir 4 rounds</p>

<p>Medicine ball burpees
Tornado planks
Med ball oh slams
Med ball twists</p>

<p>Then sets of double under jump ropes</p>

<p>I know an unemployed lawyer who might be able to help you!</p>

<p>Paleo update</p>

<p>Completed the second month. Other than one special occasion sushi dinner, where I deliberately had the sushi with rice instead of just sashimi, I stuck with it religiously. I will continue for September, but am adding a little dairy on occasion.
Lost about 4 lbs. this month, so I am down almost 10 lbs. For the 2 months. Not exactly lightening speed, but clothes are fitting better and certainly things are going In the right direction. The next 5 lb. drop, should it occur would be great, because I would be able to comfortably where a large percentage of my wardrobe. It is rather slow going, though, considering my carb consumption has been severely reduced and I havent really been slacking in the exercise department. I may get back to weighing and measuring to see what I can tweak nutrition wise.</p>

<p>@ MOWC
Keeping fingers crossed that your employment status will change soon. I really hope this will be just an “unscheduled vacation” between jobs for you!</p>

<p>Yes, fingers crossed for you, MOfWC! </p>

<p>Ran a 5K last night, pushed pretty hard and finished in 24:30. That’s all I had the time for. There is an online calculator that tells you what your times are supposed to be at a given age based on your past personal bests. It says I should be able to run a 5K in about 22 minutes. :eek: That is a pretty big load of BS.</p>

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<p>Sounds really good to me.</p>

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<p>General calculators have their issues.</p>

<p>I was ravenous last night and wound up with about 2,800 calories, way over my target. Also a bit sore this morning - not playing tennis for three days and then playing again. I’m hitting with a guy (high-school tennis coach) that’s really good for just hitting with and grooving strokes. It will most likely be a light workout (60-90 minutes) as this guy usually doesn’t play for a couple of hours at a time.</p>

<p>5x5 Front Squats with 95 pounds</p>

<p>Tabata Kettlebells!
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<p>89 swings :)</p>

<p>There’s a reason Dan John calls it the “Four Minute Fat Loss Program!”</p>

<p>Just weighed myself as well… 213.6 :slight_smile: I was 217 the other day. I was 214.4 before I left for the gym this morning so some actual weight loss taking place; not just water weight…</p>

<p>Today’s 5k plus a little: 32:08. Too many hills on this route.</p>

<p>Great time!</p>