<p>Well that just can’t happen. Your room is not isolated, it is part of a diverse community of students. If your room is full of friends drinking alcohol watching a sporting evet there’s bound to be some lound sounds that sounds infringe upon your neighbors’ freedom to live quietly. Why should your needs be more important than theirs? Especially if they are the majority? Now of course, that rests on the assumption that most students in the dorms and probably most floors want to live in a quiet environment (45 decibels max and 30 most of the time.) I believe that to be so until proven otherwise.</p>
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<p>I understand where your frustration comes from, but you must realize that probably few students come from backgrounds like yours.</p>
<p>So then why not put dorms in the hands of the students? that’s what i’m talking about. If students had the power to regulate themselves, then you could have that open environment with and a sense of community. It’d be a real sense of accomplishment to be able to spend money, make your own rules, pay a fair price, and be able to do what you want. That’d be an awesome sell to parents and students, that on-campus living is student run, people learn to grow up and stand up for themselves, and enforce the rules they create for themselves.
Instead there’s this huge ass bureacracy and there’s an attempt at creating a squeeky clean randomly constructed community where random ass people enforce puritanical regulations and PC.
Look at Bowles; back in the day, it used to be a legit place to live. The whole place was student run, they had a high gpa, they threw the SICKEST parties (one luauh (sp.) where they had a water fall from the top floor, dancers, and they cooked a pig underground. Not to mention the Legendary Halloween party), great pot, an inclusive community (especially since when it was founded the greeks excluded jews, so bowles accepted them) and a judicial system that enforced its own regulations and even kicked some people out of the dorm for beeing to reckless. Because of that they came up with alot of the traditions and spirit of the University. A lotta the songs, early RallyCom came from Bowlesmen. They were probably responsible for helping create the Cal Drinking Song (as they are for recenly writing the Cal Toking Song), hell it’s the dorm with it’s own song the band plays. Imagine if we returned to student run living, and extended it to all the reshalls.
Today at Bowles, it’s all freshmen, it’s just a place to live. The few traditions are regulated, and the sense of community is gone, it’s us vs. them between RA’s and mentors (some sophmore’s who are absoluet Narcs) againts residents.
Yah, right now there’s options for living: coops, apt., but shouldn’t the reshalls be the best they can be? Nothing sets our reshalls apart from others around the country. Imagine what we could do if they were student run?</p>
<p>I don’t agree that turning the res halls into the students control will make them ‘the best they can be.’ I live in unit 1 and am not dissatisfied with my building, floor or RA. Like most of the students at Cal, we are here for a great education, an excellent time and I’m not really interested in running the running and regulating the building I live in.
The Co-op’s is Cal’s student run housing option.</p>
<p>just wanted to chime in and say ‘hi’. punk, guess whose back in the Penthouse! yaaaaaaaaaaaaa! when u guys getting back?</p>
<p>Ok, so reading over this I think you both have valid points. I take it dobby you are against this “student-run” concept cos you believe the majority of students want a quiet/study-ish environment and shouldn’t have to be bothered to speak up for that as they would have to if such a concept was put in place?</p>
<p>At the same time, punk has his point that college is supposed to be about being on your own and learning how to live by and for yourself, so why not have this independence thing by allowing the students to run **** for themselves.</p>
<p>You guys gotta understand that The university has to do everything it can to cover its own ass. Lets forget about all that “college experience” stuff and look at it logically. The University wants money. They want to keep money. It’s easy to loose money in lawsuits. When student run dorms allowing alchohol consumption have even one kid die, there’s a lawsuit, or at the very least bad press (which is just as bad). Bad press/lawsuits=less money=less students=crappy university</p>
<p>I wouldn’t want to live in a student run dorm. Hell, if I was in charge of a dorm, I’d probably embezzle money (whos gonna stop me…some other student?) and spend the stuff I didnt embezzle on hookahs, bongs, and handles for the dorm…and I know I’m not the only one who’d do that (lets be honest with ourselves here). </p>
<p>Yeah, university regulations are a pain in the ass. But isn’t all authority? I sometimes don’t want to follow the speed limit, or pay for everything I buy, but it’s the law, and there needs to be regulations that everyone can follow to maintain order. Wanna run things yourself? Live in a frat or a co-op.</p>
<p>Hopefully Haas, you down for hukah sunday wit golden boy? i recenlty got back the ability to use a pipe for the first time in a week since i got my teeth pulled. </p>
<p>Let’s kick it on the roof like welcome week dood.</p>
<p>Even if…you kill someone? Just because you’re paying for the room doesn’t mean you can do <em>whatever you want</em>. For example, commiting homocide. That’s against the law. Can’t do it even in your own room. Same thing with underage drinking. It’s against the law. You’re not supposed to have it in your room so stop whining whenever something doesn’t go your way.</p>
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<p>There’s something called Hall Association. That’s run by students, spending money that you pay for the dorms, to spend on events decided by students, for students. Rescomp is run by students. Many aspects of dorm life are run by students. Even if you get students to run the entire building, it’s not going to change the law that you can’t drink underage. If you have a problem with the law, take it up with the judicial system, not the RAs. They just enforce it.</p>
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<p>Uhh, no. I and everyone I’ve talked to agree that Bowles was a MESS back in the days. The people I talked to who used to live there didn’t like it at all. I think I heard someone died at a Halloween party after falling off the balcony. It was pretty much a crazy frat-like dormitory that was out of control. The irresponsible decisions students make not only have a negative consequence on the university, but also on us students. It hurts our reputations as Berkeley students when other Berkeley students decide to get crazy drunk and make a fool of themselves, and make the rest of us look bad. Ever hear of people dissing Berkeley as a wild, liberal cesspool filled with pot-smoking, do-nothing hippies? I sure don’t like that reputation. This is supposed to be the #1 public university in the nation. You’re not pouring $20,000+ a year to smoke pot or meet girls all the time. You can do that at a community college. If you’re going to attend Berkeley, act like a Berkeley student.</p>