<p>Strange about the noise. I can’t hear our Miele unless I put my ear to the door. Standing up, I don’t know it’s on.</p>
<p>Hey HMOM I do have experience with the dual drawer Fisher-Paykel. WORST PRODUCT EVER. Even when it was working, it wasnt really cleaning anything. The repair folks came out 8 times in the first year and we had it replaced TWICE. I constantly see them pictured in high end kitchen remodels, because they are attractive and pricey.
We eventually evoked the California Lemon Law and had GE (they owned our service contract) replace it with a comparably priced GE model.</p>
<p>We have a Whirlpool and are thrilled with it. I haven’t put a decible meter next to it and compared to other models though. Dishes clean, no maint yet after 8 yrs.</p>
<p>One other thing I might recommend: All are entitled to their opinion, and some may disagree, but I suggest you consider an American brand made in America. Some feel it is important to keep Americans working(as best we can).</p>
<p>Sewbusy, have you contacted Miele about this? Sounds like the air vent may be plugged. You should demand a new one if yours is still under warranty.</p>
<p>Re the nationality/American-made post:</p>
<p>I think the issue with Kenmore appliances, which may or may not be made in America, is that they are generally quite reliable and work reasonably well, BUT that getting prompt, courteous, reliable, competent, afforable service for them is a problem in some regions. Appliance repair/service people, no matter what brand of appliance you buy and need repaired, certainly are working (and being paid) in the US. Same goes for the delivery people adn the installers, and the retailers. So I would say that on some level, so no matter what brand one buys, one is supporting the American economy. (Remember too that it was very nice to buy a Maytag when it was being made in Newton, Iowa, but that Maytags aren’t made there anymore–not sure they are American-made at all, but perhaps they are.)</p>
<p>It’s also important to realize that “foreign” companies are not always foreign–think of the Subarus and Toyotas and other cars that are made–and made very well–by American workers in various states. </p>
<p>I think the past few months have shown the interconnectedness of the worldwide economy, and a good product is a good product no matter where it is made. A bad product is not worth my time and money no matter how American it is or is not. I do try to buy American-made products when it makes sense to me to do so–for example, I just sent my daughter a metal whisk made in the US that cost about half again as much as the Chinese-made one I could have sent her–but quality of product and where applicable quality of service play into the equation when I buy things. So I make no apologies for having bought a German dishwasher this time around. Whether I buy another one will be determined by how this one holds up and what kind of servixe I get when it needs its first (and subsequent) repair.</p>
<p>We bought a basic Maytag dishwasher to replace an old Thermador that took over 5 hours to complete a cycle and sounded like a B-52 was taking off in the kitchen. We’ve had it for quite a while–at least 7 years, maybe 10–with no significant problems. We had to have the latch fixed. It is very quiet, although certainly not actually silent, and has flexible cycles. It can also handle tall wine glasses–a major point for me.</p>
<p>I took a little time to research the Fisher Paykel drawers we’ve had so many problems with. They are under 3 years old and we have had them repaired 4 time. The latest repair estimate was $850!</p>
<p>All of the problems we have had are well documented by others all over the net. They are simply poorly designed and fail often. How do they away with this? How are they still in business? I really feel like doing everything I can to put them out of business!</p>
<p>Vent aside, I still like the concept of drawers, especially now that there are just 2 of us most of the time and we eat out often. Does anyone have dishwasher drawers that work?</p>
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Apparently Bosch has a dishwasher plant in North Carolina.</p>
<p>cbreeze - Thanks, it is still under warranty so I will have hubby call them.</p>
<p>We didn’t have very good luck with our Bosch, though I think we are the exception. Got a good price on a basic KitchenAid this time around and are happy with it.</p>
<p>Whirlpool, the manufacturer for Kenmore is U.S. owned, and as I understand it their main plant is in Ohio. I completely agree it’s better to buy a foreign owned product made here- some hondas, some Toyotas, and apparently Bosch dishwashers than a foreign owned product made elsewhere, given a choice of just those 2. But my, what a bonus when workers here have jobs here, and profits from sales here stay here! I know that isn’t always the case, I don’t live in a dream world; I know some disagree, thats ok.
I just try to buy as American as I can when I can. Unless I knew some specific huge difference between a Whirlpool and Bosch I’d choose the Whirlpool.</p>
<p>As in post 25: “So I would say that on some level, so no matter what brand one buys, one is supporting the American economy.” Tell that to Ford, Gm and Chrysler guys getting laid off. Yes, it may be an American car transport company delivering a Prius for example, and Mattmom would tell us that on some level that helps American economy- but wouldn’t it be better- far better for the American economy if that same transport company was delivering new Fords(for example)?</p>
<p>But this thread is getting out of hand. I only asked the op to “consider” an American product made in America. I didn’t say the Op must only buy American; I didn’t say forget American go foreign; I only asked the poster to consider choosing American owned/made.</p>
<p>Having spent way too much of my day looking at dishwasher reviews, it’s interesting, but American made products do pretty well.</p>
<p>While I have to admit Bosch won in the category for me, several American made products come close for reliability surprisingly!</p>
<p>And those guys down under are the worst!! Not sure where Asko’s are made, but people should keep away from them too. There’s an inverse relationship between price and quality here like I’ve never seen before. There are $400 Sears Kenmore’s that perform way better than $1500 European and New Zealand products.</p>
<p>hmom----I think we need a support group soley for customers of Fisher Paykel products.</p>
<p>Have an Asko and love it. Quiet, cleans well, no problems</p>
<p>Knock wood, keymom, Consumer Reports found reliability issues.</p>