Do not go to McGill if..

<p>From what I’ve heard, Sauder isn’t a good business school. I have friends who chose SFU over UBC for business…To tell you the truth, i really don’t know what actual basis people use for this. I don’t know why one is considered so much better or so much worse. Just go for your gut feeling but make sure you check the school out before deciding…</p>

<p>“employers simply do not value McGill BA’s because too many morons come out of the school (if you come from Quebec, there is zero admissions selectivity).”</p>

<p>It’s still the most selective in the country.</p>

<p>“You HAVE to go to a real grad school for your undergrad to even be worth the time. Otherwise, you spent four years on vacation in Montreal.”</p>

<p>And not a grad program in McGill?</p>

<p>Basically this thread should read do not go to McGill if you’re interested in commerce. I agree with wutang, for b-school in Canada only Ivey and UWO are worth attending. McGill nonetheless has some very good Arts and Sci. programs, to say all undergrad degrees are the same as the BCom is unfair. </p>

<p>And Quebec students normally go through CEGEP (~40% of applicants with a CEGEP DEC get in), but it’s worth noting that CEGEP Science (not commerce or social) programs are very competitive and perform a lot of the weeding out process even before the students apply for university.</p>

<p>Hey OP don’t listen to these guys, they’re just ignorant/arrogant American high school kids.</p>

<p>just look at this idiot:</p>

<p>"Only decent Canadian undergrad B-school is Ivey at UWO. It’s OK, but not amazing. The rest are garbage.</p>

<p>What does Canada know about business or competition? Nothing. All the business leaders in Canada have MBAs from HBS and Wharton. "</p>

<p>look at this
largest canadian Ibank. only two executive with an american mba (HBS)
[RBC</a> Capital Markets - About RBCCM](<a href=“http://www.rbccm.com/0,,cid-15962_,00.html]RBC”>http://www.rbccm.com/0,,cid-15962_,00.html)</p>

<p>2/26 = 7.6%
the rest are from Ivey/Queen’s/Schulich</p>

<p>and saying Ivey is just okay is a big underestimation. HBS buys a lot of their cases from Ivey. </p>

<p>ALSO, Ivey is not the only top tier B-school in Canada. Queen’s School of Business and York Schulich are just as good if not better(IMO, Queen’s is the best, and no I don’t go there).</p>

<p>McGill is at the same level as UofT Rotman commerce. 2nd teir. UBC Sauder is even worse.</p>

<p>“I agree with wutang, for b-school in Canada only Ivey and UWO are worth attending.”</p>

<p>shows how stupid this guy is. IVEY IS UWO!!!</p>

<p>My main goal is to get into Med School…is that a pretty safe bet if I maintain a 3.5 gpa or higher? I want to go to a US med school (I’m from Alabama)…</p>

<p>So everyone here means that if I graduate with a Business Degree from McGill, I would probably not get a job with a bank or a investment firm?</p>

<p>This thread is absolutely ridiculous.</p>

<p>Basically the OP doing everything short of calling Canadians “■■■■■■■■” and bashing McGill for reasons I cannot understand.</p>

<p>Lots of McGill graduates go on to get great jobs in their chosen field - including investment banking. The one thing you will learn about the world though is that it’s more important to build connections than it is to depend solely on your degree and GPA.</p>

<p>McGill isn’t the greatest school in the history of the universe but it’s a high quality educational institute that churns out intelligent people, despite the BS the OP is spewing.</p>

<p>Here’s a little recent history of the Canadian banking by the way as a counterpoint to whoever blasted Canada for it’s non-competitive business environment:</p>

<p>A couple years ago a Canada’s five largest banks attempted to merge together to create three megabanks. The movement was spurred by talk of Scotia and Bank of Montreal merging. It made a lot of sense on the surface - Scotia had extensive holdings in Latin America which BMO lacked but had little to no exposure to the US market with BMO had in spades. TD Bank and CIBC soon followed with talks of a merger and there was fears that a the consolidation of the banks would dilute the competition in the local market. The logic at the time was that by merging the new bank’s size would allow it to compete globally with larger US and European banks with through looser lending regulations and mergers had much more resources on hand. The federal government stepped in and said no. As a result, the Canadian banks have been forced to be more conservative in their investing practices to make money and “less competitive” relative to their global peers.</p>

<p>At the beginning of 2008 TD Bank was the 15th largest bank in North America. At the end of 2008 it was the 5th.</p>

<p>thank you i crisis, thats what I’ve heard from pretty much everyone…before coming on this thread that is</p>

<p>Yup same, I had always heard that McGill is a great school but after coming to this thread I started to have doubts.</p>

<p>Thanks for clearing that up :)</p>

<p>Also, I sort of understand where wutang is coming from…the job market isn’t exactly great right now…also some recruiters have told me that they prefer a Bcom over BA for some reason which I can’t fathom.</p>

<p>I’m not really concerned with employment after graduation because if i’m going to to mcgill, i would have enough money to pay for law school in the States (canadian resident). If going to gtown/ND, i probably wont be able to go to law school right after undergrad.</p>

<p>So i’m just wondering how hard is it go get a high GPA in the management faculty, since law schools focus mostly on your GPA. and how well does the management faculty place its students into grad schools. is it possible to go to a T14 law school from mcgill?</p>

<p>That’s true. I’ve heard that the management might get u into some business schools, but not really other ones. Law school? Then why go into business? Your best bet would just be to stick with US schools as they place better in the US.</p>

<p>I want to become a corporate lawyer, so i’d like to study accounting/finance in undergrad then apply for law school.</p>

<p>the only reason im not so sure about going to Georgetown or Notre Dame is that 4 years of undergrad would cost me more than 200k, so I dont really have the money for grad anymore…</p>

<p>"Lots of McGill graduates go on to get great jobs in their chosen field - including investment banking. The one thing you will learn about the world though is that it’s more important to build connections than it is to depend solely on your degree and GPA.</p>

<p>McGill isn’t the greatest school in the history of the universe but it’s a high quality educational institute that churns out intelligent people, despite the BS the OP is spewing."</p>

<p><em>churns out some intelligent people
–Then of course you have all the bros, alcoholics, junkies, jerks, and the occasional “how the </em>* did they graduate from here, let alone get in?” students.</p>

<p>If the OP thinks McGill has a lot of stupid people, he’s probably right. I think there’s A LOT of stupid people here 2. I’ve met some people here with some of the least common sense of all people ive ever met. I’ve met kids who make you think “huh? wait are you a student here, because you are too dumb to go here”. I’ve heard everything in between 2. I’ve heard of kids coming here just so they can get laid, or because you can drink at age 18, or because McGill was “officially” ranked #12 in the world (I always find it funny when people are dead set on the “guaranteed perfection” of university rankings, and also how they seem to overlook the dozens of other rankings because 12 is the highest any of themgave McGill).</p>

<p>Lots of people here are stupid. The quality of the student body is not that of an elite school in the US, and that’s that.</p>

<p>It’s all relative. A lot of Canadians are fine with going to McGill, studying econ, and working as bank tellers afterward. I’m not because I was raised in the U.S. where we’re taught to make as much money as possible.</p>

<p>wutang…hows the management building? the library etc?</p>

<p>Hmmm…reading the comments written by a couple of posters, perhaps McGill students really are as dumb as they say…</p>

<p>Ivey and Queen’s are the only decent business schools in Canada, that’s a pretty accurate statement. </p>

<p>McGill has a lot of great programs, but business is not one of them. In fact it doesn’t even have the best business program in the city. </p>

<p>It’s a relatively large public school but you’d be surprised, there are also a lot of “dumb” kids in some “elite” American universities. It’s no HYPS, but it’s the closest you’d get to being elite and selective in Canada (which isn’t saying a lot), though the CEGEP system is stronger and does a better job of weeding students out before university than any American HS program.</p>

<p>is there any good advising for pre-med students at mcgill? and does it have a high acceptance rate for US medical schools? especially if you’re in the faculty of arts (i heard its possible to be pre med in this faculty)?</p>