<p>Hmm, Joe… you graduated in '04… there was totally a Red Delicious then! I know because I know the people who were in it during their frosh year (03-04) 
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<p>You must be gettin’ real old buddy! (jk :P)</p>
<p>Haha, I probably just didn’t know the name. And yeah, I am old. ;-)</p>
<p>Actually Joe, the Dabney-fication ended the same year you left, if I remember correctly. And just because we don’t continue that particular tradition doesn’t mean we have less spirit. It’s a new house every hour years, and Lloyd concentrates it’s interest on other areas of tradition.</p>
<p>Present tense, alleya? I thought you’d graduated.</p>
<p>According to the current students as you can see above, the traditions I cited ARE still around. I guess they just must’ve skipped the last 2 or 3 years! (Either that, or you’re wrong about the precise “concentration.”)</p>
<p>I’m glad (though surprised given how a few of the frosh were being cultivated for it by a certain group) that the Dabney-fication ended. It never should have happened in the first place.</p>
<p>FYI, I should have said in the above post that I was remembering interactions between juniors/seniors and frosh when I was senior (i.e. classes of '04/'05 and '07), not those currently at those levels.</p>
<p>I don’t know any '09s or '10s in person and only briefly met '08s (who seemed great it must be said!) when I came back for a weekend in spring 2005.</p>
<p>Yes, present tense. I am still a student and a member of Lloyd. All the students mentioned above are in other houses, except for lizzardfire, and he never said anything about being floated for the Ride. </p>
<p>Why is it so important that Lloyd be the same house it was when you left? I’ve always thought that the fact that a house has a completely new group of people every 4 years was a positive thing. It allows for growth and change in the house, and I think keeps the houses from becoming more separated than they already are.</p>
<p>None of the frosh have bothered playing the ride, so none have been floated for it. That being said I’ve been showered two or three times (intimidations, frosh wash, something else) and been floated a lot more than that (mostly for throwing at dinner).</p>
<p>“Why is it so important that Lloyd be the same house it was when you left?”</p>
<p>Oh frankly, I’m glad it’s not the same as when I left. Lloyd was far better my freshman and sophomore years, in my personal opinion. And some traditions are better left to the shifting sands of time, anyway.</p>
<p>This is not one of them.</p>
<p>Let’s step back from you and me a bit, alleya. The Ride is a LONG Caltech tradition and was even referenced during Harrison Schmitt ('57)'s stay on the Moon (they played the Ride to wake him up, he hummed back a couple of bars of the Funeral March to indicate some perhaps-mock displeasure and named a fellow Caltech grad as the guy who “must have picked the music”). If its significance has ebbed in Lloyd in the last 3 years, that’s extremely sad.</p>
<p>This is a pretty entertaining recording of The Ride being played on the Moon from the NASA website: <a href=“http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/A17A1365505.mp3[/url]”>http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/A17A1365505.mp3</a> (the dialogue has delays because of the time for transmissions to get to the Moon and back).</p>
<p>Thankfully, lizzardfire seems to prefer my vision, so perhaps things are on the upswing again!</p>